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After Fiasco Deepens Labour to Halt Universal Credit?

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The government’s flagship welfare policy, Universal Credit, is to be introduced in 90 jobcentres in north-west England, Iain Duncan Smith says.

The work and pensions secretary told the BBC the change would apply only to single claimants, with couples and families joining at a later stage.

But ministers have not set a target date for that to happen.

The benefit is currently distributed at just 10 jobcentres, having been delayed a number of times since its creation.

Ministers say the changes will get under way next week.

The Universal Credit system merges six working-age benefits – income-based jobseeker’s allowance, income-related employment and support allowance, income support, child tax credit, working tax credit and housing benefit – into a single payment in a far-reaching change designed to encourage work and reduce fraud.

BBC 20th June 2014.

And now this:

Labour will halt Iain  Duncan Smith’s universal credit programme if it wins the election, Rachel Reeves has said.

The shadow work and pension secretary said the programme would be paused while the National Audit Office (NAO) conducts a “warts and all” review.

“Universal credit is in a bit of a mess, to put it mildly,” the shadow work and pensions secretary told the Sunday Times.

“If it carries on like it is, it’s going to fail. Next year, if I’m secretary of state, we’re going to have a pause and let the NAO do a review.”

Reeves said she was still supportive of the scheme on principle, but that she would take a hard-headed view on the chances of the project being delivered without disproprtionate cost to the taxpayer.

“If we thought this was a totally ridiculous idea we would just say we’re going to scrap it,” she said.

“Given that work has been started and a lot of money has been spent on it, we hope the costs of continuing with it will be smaller than the benefits of not proceeding with it.”

“We’re not going to go in with a preconceived notion that we are going to proceed at any cost, which seems to be Iain Duncan Smith’s approach,” she added.

“This is his baby and he’s not going to abandon it, however bad things get.”

One by one, the £18 billion scheme’s supporters have fallen away as new financial and IT problems have emerged, leaving the work and pensions secretary looking isolated.

The NAO previously warned that there was no “detailed view of how universal credit is meant to work”.

The government’s Major Projects Authority confirmed the programme needs a “reset” while the public accounts committee has criticised almost every aspect of it.

“Its implementation has been extraordinarily poor,” chair Margaret Hodge said.

“The failure to develop a comprehensive plan has led to extensive delay and the waste of a yet to be determined amount of public money.

“£425 million has been spent so far on the programme. It is likely that much of this, including at least £140 million worth of IT assets, will now have to be written off.

“The management of the programme has been alarmingly weak. From the outset, the department has failed to grasp the nature and enormity of the task, failed to monitor and challenge progress regularly and, when problems arose, failed to intervene promptly.”

Duncan Smith has gone out of his way to prevent information about the programme becoming public. The DWP is continuing to block the publication of reports into the failure of the scheme at the  upper tier information tribunal.

The department aims to introduce universal credit to 90 jobcentres in the northwest by the end of the year.

22nd June 2014. Politics UK.

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    June 23, 2014 at 9:56 am

  2. Truth And Lies About Poverty

    http://www.jointpublicissues.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Truth-And-Lies-Report-Smaller.pdf

    Please ensure you have a PDF reader (ie Adobe reader) installed before selecting link above as this is the format its presented in.

    gaia

    June 23, 2014 at 10:00 am

  3. Talking of lies and scandals, it appears the elephant is back in the room

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html

    Also apparently some 31’000 scientists plus 9’000 PHDs have petitioned US government to re-examine global warming, so it appears the science isn’t as settled as some would have us believe?

    gaia

    June 23, 2014 at 10:09 am

  4. I don’t like this idea of being paid monthly. It will make it hard to budget to say the least. And why will we still have to sign on fortnightly?

    Andrew Coates

    June 23, 2014 at 10:24 am

    • Because if you only sign on once a month, we will not be able to sanction you as often as we can now, that’s why! Remember, it is for your own good and we are working for you.

      The Rt. Hon. Iain Duncan Smith

      June 24, 2014 at 12:40 am

  5. Lastly as I have a busy day ahead of me, before we draw any conclusions on labours latest admission

    LETS NOT FORGET THE FIASCO THAT WAS FLEXI NEW DEAL (FND) TO MENTION BUT ONE OF LABOURS FAILED WELFARE REFORMS.

    UC is about control of the lower classes people as seldom does anyone’s life move from poverty to riches so the notion a person will leave benefits altogether as fanciful as it sounds for many will never happen while government invests in businesses instead of people, while government looks at predicted outcomes rather than the underlining initial causality.

    gaia

    June 23, 2014 at 10:41 am

  6. “The shadow work and pension secretary said the programme would be paused while the National Audit Office (NAO) conducts a “warts and all” review.”

    Why the fuck do they need to conduct a costly warts and all review. We all know UC is an unworkable mess. FFS! It’s always reviews, committees and sub-committees with these fucking wankers.

    Apologies for my ripe language. But everyone has a boiling point, and I’ve reached mine.

    jj joop

    June 23, 2014 at 11:29 am

    • Its exactly the same crap as when the tories stated the work programme wasn’t the same as flexi new deal, yet we all know the only difference was an extra year and payment on results.

      Governments are inept at dealing with causality so always take the step of inventing a prevention instead which always often is a punishment.

      gaia

      June 24, 2014 at 7:13 am

  7. So Labour agrees that UC has gone poorly, but they still want to throw money at it? No vote for you!

    AeonThePhoenix

    June 23, 2014 at 1:43 pm

  8. How Labour can still publicly support this doomed Tory fantasy is beyond me. And all the other intended employment-related policies Labour have announced so-far are still to be under-pined by the threat of Benefit Sanctions. Disgusting. I’ll be voting Green.

    Landless Peasant

    June 23, 2014 at 6:00 pm

  9. my mwa placement provider sent me home on day 1 as unsuitable for it and has not even bothered to tell my so called adviser at jcp and thought i was still doing it pmsl.

    and that was 3 weeks ago and i even told the jcp they sent me packing on the same day at the podium n still not been told haha fkn mandatory my ass bunch of useless nobs.

    i got 10 squid for dinner and bus fair tho, or here 10 quid and dont post what we are doing on there fb page again 😉

    every letter i have that says is mandatory and i have to do it n not had to go on any off it including the wp after i show up.

    so they threw it all at me n not 1 thing has done nothing to help me find a job and making it near impossible now to get a job after 3 years of this no help at all and cost thousands of pounds of tax payers money just to try and sanction my jsa and i dont even get hb as i live at home.

    wonder what crap they will come out with next lol 😉

    super ted

    June 23, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    • Ive got to ask you super ted, why were you unsuitable and how old are you?

      As for expecting either the government or some provider to help you change your fortunes, unless you can find a rare gem its simply not going to happen.

      When we look at all these schemes both past and present I would have to say it would be new deal under JCP that was most helpful but sadly you missed out on that as that was back in the early 2000s. Even this couldn’t help everyone but what made it different was the actually engaged businesses in a joint venture alongside helping claimants gain actual decent full time qualifications and you were supported while on them for which was around a year (proper course). In many cases the claimant ended up working with the business they were placed with.

      This is direct proof that endorsing a claimant to study a meaningful qualification with the direct backing of a company for a trade they want to get into works. If government had instead of lining the private sectors pockets took this approach with the long term unemployed a lot of them would be so now.

      Take yourself, in the 3 years you have been unemployed you could now hold qualifications in computer programming, electrical mechanical engineering, an accountant or maybe as I don’t know what your interested in what you want to taking that its a reasonable one to attain and not something like a rocket scientist or a professional footballer.

      If you could tell me what qualifications including school you do have I might be able to prescribe what you could do for yourself if your interested of course?

      Either way your obviously not a fool so a waste of talent in my eyes and no I don’t care if you have a record or been to jail as been their, done that and it didn’t stop me achieving what I did. I know a qualification by itself cant guarantee a job but it will improve how an employer perceives you and besides its not all about what others think and may be enough for you to strike out for yourself dependant on your choice of aspiration.

      gaia

      June 24, 2014 at 8:15 am

  10. While Rachel Reeves is halting UC, she also urgently needs to launch an independant and no holes barred top level investigation into every single one of Iain Duncan Smith’s activities and decisions (from day one) regarding his job and time spent working at the DWP.

    This is a ‘must’ and ‘has’ to happen with the results published in all media formats so the public can see how this idiot of a fuck up has wasted taxpayers money.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 24, 2014 at 7:34 am

    • Wont happen else the next shower of shits that get in may have to face the same about their actions.

      growls

      June 24, 2014 at 5:25 pm

  11. Abolish £700 million Help To Work with a Guaranteed Job and wage incentives.

    IPPR has recommended that the punitive Help To Work scheme, which includes 6 month unpaid Community Work Placements, should be abolished and replaced with a Guaranteed – Job and employer wage incentives.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 24, 2014 at 7:57 am

  12. IDS spits out his dummy in anger at the BBC.

    ‘Relentlessly negative’ BBC is a bigger enemy of welfare reform than Labour, says IDS

    MP reacted in fury when BBC led criticisms of Government benefit changes.

    Iain Duncan Smith has launched the strongest government attack on the BBC since the last election, accusing the corporation of being a ‘bigger opponent’ of welfare reform than even the Labour Party.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664172/Relentlessly-negative-BBC-bigger-enemy-welfare-reform-Labour-says-IDS.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    What wrong IDS?

    IF YOU CAN’T TAKE THE TRUTH THEN FUCK OFF!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 24, 2014 at 8:10 am

    • This reminds me of the passage in the link I gave during one of my posts in the previous article to be printed for us all to reply to.

      “Whilst the Secretary of State is given respect for his work in this field, he rarely shows equal respect to his critics. He has taken the unusual step for a Cabinet Minster of blaming civil servants for problems with Universal Credit, and has simply dismissed criticism from; the Public Accounts Committee, the Institute for Fiscal Studies, the Office for National Statistics, the National Audit Office, the Department for Work and Pensions Select Committee, numerous charities, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the UN, the EU….The list is long. His Department has acquired a reputation for being less than careful with statistics, and has been officially rebuked by both the UK Statistics Authority and the Office for National Statistics”.

      The latter 2 are the nail in the coffin for me as they have probably forgotten more than IDS will ever know about math so hes never been in the position to challenge anyones figures and the 2 year old child comment of “you cant prove me wrong either” just goes to show how academically weak he still is and where Osborne was coming from.

      This constant predictable behaviour of IDSs is the symptoms of his years of being ridiculed, bullied and demoted so one can only feel that this reform for him is a last chance grasp to be acknowledged for fear of falling into obscurity forever more which will no doubt be the case if he fails yet again which it appears he has.

      IDS may accuse others of coasting but this is merely him reflecting upon himself what with failing to convince others that he was more than what he actually was and is, so the next time you get sanctioned remember its not really about you but more so about him and his failure to apply himself and except his limits.

      gaia

      June 24, 2014 at 9:16 am

      • It is a sure sign of someone on the way out when he or she starts blaming the staff and everybody else.

        A once leading Ipswich Tory Councillor (on Suffolk County and the Borough) went that way.

        Now she cuts a lonely figure, without office, and no political future.

        Andrew Coates

        June 24, 2014 at 9:56 am

      • Oh in case anyones wondering then why did Cameron put him in that position in the first place, its because the tories knew that the public would have never excepted welfare reform if they were honest and upfront about it so sort to go around the houses playing on the publics ignorance as well as having an understanding and willingness to use their knowledge of how humans behaviour towards each other during a recession.

        They knew they needed a pig ignorant character not unfamiliar with the practice of deceit, who wasn’t afraid and heartless enough to lashout at his critics irrespective of their well informed opinions and facts as he had done so in the past.

        Yes even Cameron regards i believe IDS as a lesser only capable of being a loyal doggy on a leash (his passion for conservatism) who if it all goes tits up can use as a patsy stating well he is poorly educated but we felt so sorry for him, we thought we would give him a chance.

        So if you like you could say he himself is on a placement at the bequest of government.

        As for Ester McVey she is without doubt IDSs intellectual superior who I feel without would have seen IDS sunk sooner rather than later had Chris Grayling not had been moved what with running out of spin gleaned from his years in service to television.
        Grayling initially suited the purpose what with his attack dog persona but eventually fell foul to bad comments and dodgy stats after escaping the lime light of falsified expenses.
        Esters roll is to say the least obvious, its her expertise in corporate governance so its far to say had or if IDS was moved to other pastures that she is without doubt his replacement and has been groomed as such since the start of the welfare reform.

        gaia

        June 24, 2014 at 10:18 am

  13. i was unsuitable because i posted what they were doing on there face book page ie using slaves n they not like it as the main provider for mwa has sub contracted another provider to do the mwa placements here.

    i was also way older than all the others there and there was so many on mwa there was nothing to do any way as the place was over run with them and cant see any way they would do the hole day either and just get sent home after a hr or 2 of sweeping up.

    i was on new deal and got a course out of it 2 days a week for a year but after i completed it was told i cant do the next bit as it would be over the 16hrs and not be able to look for work.

    yet my mwa was for 30hrs a week and wanted me to do 10hrs job search on top of that so 40hrs then fkn impossible.

    the adviser said mwa for me was to gain some recent work experience yet page 2 of the mwa tool kit says it cant be used for this so just used to try and stop my jsa and sanction me.

    the provider has not told the jcp i was unsuitable and thought i was still doing it so i bet they got there fee for doing nothing at all again and since i left the wp if you add up all the fees they get it must be near 2k they spent on nothing at all so far and wasting my time and bus fair.

    super ted

    June 24, 2014 at 2:36 pm

  14. Thanks for getting back to me Super Ted, so you coated off on facebook, I never figured on that one being the reason.

    gaia

    June 25, 2014 at 2:23 am

  15. Working poverty is ‘national scandal’ says Archbishop

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27981975

    Hmmm, so much for making work pay.

    gaia

    June 25, 2014 at 2:27 am

  16. Zero-hours contracts: rules give workers more choice

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27996448

    When is this government going to get the message, we don’t want more choice, we want more money per hour so we don’t have to race around from one job to the next. I swear this government wants to be like America where people have to have 7 plus jobs just to scrape by.

    I swear you cant tell the difference between a liberal and a conservative these days.

    gaia

    June 25, 2014 at 2:49 am

  17. HEARD ON NEWS TODAY, IF YOU ARE IN 0 HOURS CONTRACT, YOUR EMPLOYER CANNOT NOW STOP YOU TAKING OTHER WORK

    JOBHUNTER

    June 25, 2014 at 8:35 am

  18. Home office finally admit “we don’t need a warrant to hack your Facebook account, your email account because their not based in this country”.

    The home office gave a stark reminder of how unsecure your privacy and rights are and how much they just don’t care. Theresa May claims its only for the purpose of crime and terrorism yet the fact remains they can do it to anyone and you cant do nothing about it.

    Basically under ICO the data protection people, UK citizens have zero protection under law when the website or more importantly the server resides outside UK soil. As Snowden pointed out, government are spying for other governments so as to circumnavigate the human rights act article 8

    Right to Respect for Private and Family Life

    Even your google search history can be used so persistently using DWPs or provider supplied PCs can land the unsuspecting, unbelieving claimant in HOT WATER.

    Google so claimants know don’t use the standard cookie which you may have noticed when after deleting history from the browser, all your searches remain. This type of cookie is called a SUPER COOKIE and for the record UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH uses them to.

    As things stand under current JSA rules a claimants JOBSEARCH ACTIVITY isn’t a major issue not to say their not keeping it BUT under UNIVERSAL CREDIT REGULATIONS a claimants is expected to search for work 35 hours a week. Now im unaware currently how many claimants know that 7 hours a day is an awful lot of time to consume which leads me to suspect claimants might during this period look at things that aren’t job related. The rules give no le way so technically a claimant could be SANCTIONED for deviating just ONCE.

    Im not saying DWP will take this approach on just a few deviations from job hunting online but strongly urge claimants to verify this is not the case EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY USE either a DWP or PROVIDERS PC when under UC rules.

    ALSO as many a claimant is now filling in a compliancy agreement while still receiving benefits every 2 weeks to check EXACTLY which REGULATIONS their under (ie, is it JSA reg or UNIVERSAL CREDIT regs).

    I LIKE MY PRIVACY SO I HOPE YOU LIKE YOURS?

    gaia

    June 25, 2014 at 9:54 am

  19. TIME OF DECADANCE

    Well I have another busy day but may I call upon the astute who frequent this site like for instance the person who cleverly posted an article showing a picture of British government ministers in the run up to the world war 2 visiting a already functioning German concentration camp where Jews, homeless and jobless people were held to lend me their expert opinion on something if they could be so kind.

    Im not an out and out historian but like so many am fascinated by certain points in history and in this case the mystery of why great civilisations simply collapse and disappear throughout history.
    The one I draw on particularly is the Roman Empire as experts have tried to pin point not only the cause but also how they could have possibly, maybe avoided it. Now eerily I noticed a lot of similarities in the collapse to todays issues globally BUT more interestingly WHAT WAS PRESCRIBED as the possible solution to avoidance seems EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT THE TORIES ARE DOING SINCE BEING IN OFFICE.

    MY QUESTION IS THIS

    Am I seeing what im seeing or is it just coincidence?

    gaia

    June 25, 2014 at 10:08 am

  20. The Universal credit (Child tax credit) system is a complete mess: Due to Government cutting the entry point by 50% suddenly many families who have been paid CTC are now getting heavy bills from HMRC to pay it all back. Nice Christmas present. Many are struggling due to this. Its a complete farce and fiasco. It will only get worse as Government is trying to run all its agencies on one shoe-string budgets and they just cant do it properly…..

    Jason Cameron

    January 4, 2015 at 10:46 am

    • What makes this much worse is when big corporations aren’t chased for their taxes or investigated and prosecuted for tax evasion.

      Universal Jobmatch

      January 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm


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