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Tories to Punish Feckless Parents on Benefits.

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Conservative MP Margot James, pictured has worked on proposals to restrict benefits payments to parents who refuse to participate in training to prepare themselves for the workplace

Conservative MP Margot James, pictured has worked on proposals to restrict benefits payments to parents who refuse to participate in training to prepare themselves for the workplace

 

No you could not make this one up.

It’s far-right political correctness gone mad!

Feckless parents may be stripped of their benefits … unless they take lessons in raising family

  • Plan to slash benefits for parents of unruly children or those with poor diet
  • Senior conservatives developing the proposals in advance of 2015 election
  • Prime Minister David Cameron is currently deciding on election manifesto

 

Benefits will be docked from feckless parents who refuse to take classes on how to improve their children’s discipline, diet and exercise under plans being discussed by senior Tories.

A secret party document photographed in Downing Street reveals MPs preparing the Conservative election manifesto are considering attaching new conditions to welfare.

Carried by MP Margot James, who sits on a policy advisory board which is drawing up proposals for Prime Minister David Cameron, it reads: ‘Apply conditions for parents on benefits (training or parenting classes)’.

Daily Mail.

A thought immediatly occurs: if they are going to do this to parents what are they preparing for everyone else on the Dole?

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Written by Andrew Coates

June 13, 2014 at 4:07 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    June 13, 2014 at 5:40 pm

  2. It is nothing to do with the government how parents choose to raise their children and it is the children themselves who will be stigmatized and forced into yet more poverty by these proposals. The majority of parents love their children and do the best they can for them; Sometimes in very difficult circumstances and most of them wouldn’t go home from the pub and forget to take their child with them! Take note Mr Cameron.

    Carol Joyce

    June 13, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    • Maybe if benefits were set at decent levels parents would be able to afford better food??? And enough of it? And fuel to cook It with??

      kat rehman

      June 14, 2014 at 9:25 am

  3. The so called unruly children can have an undiagnosed disability.what margot james is really saying is that people on benefits should be targeted for something that could affect any family working or not.the government is reinforcing poverty not reducing it with the way it conducts its affairs.

    Another attack,labeling people unfairly and without justification simply for cheap publicity. Its nasty politics from the off,some have called it persecution.

    ken

    June 14, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    • No they feed their children on crap and takeaways which are expensive, rather than go to the supermarket and buy fresh vegetables, as they are to lazy to cook a a simple meal, and usually their shopping list starts off with fags and beer then food of some sort in packets and tins follow after.

      Opera

      June 15, 2014 at 10:31 pm

      • Really? Because I am a parent on benefits and I can assure you that I don’t get enough to buy fags and booze or even chippy chips.

        We eat as well as we can but I skip meals and give my son the larger portions of food, making my bulk up with things I grow in the garden like lettuce.

        MummyLion

        June 16, 2014 at 6:55 am

      • Opera, opera, opera, giving crap food to children isn’t the practice of only the poor and studies prove that actually the largest percentage of parents without the funds and or even the time to cook is the working.

        This aside a diet of only fresh vegetables that while healthy are only just one part of a balanced and healthy diet.

        As for the fags and booze argument, its a myth spread by the tories as fags and booze are incredibly cheap so even if practiced wouldn’t displace that much of the funds so as to effect ones diet. I don’t drink but I do smoke but if I was to do both it would still only cost me no more than a tenner a week.

        If we disregard anything I have just said how do you prescribe these people will be able to afford to cook these veg without gas or electric, maybe you can suggest a way to grow that in your garden ?

        gaia

        June 16, 2014 at 7:14 am

      • your an ignorant idiot

        jane wilson

        June 16, 2014 at 8:04 am

  4. I was told that benefits are too generous making people want to stay on them! this by someone who should have known better. The media fuel this idea.

    Carol Joyce

    June 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    • If people bought fresh vegetables for starters instead of takeaways and junk food they would find it cheaper, but it would seem that fags and drink is first on the shopping list

      Opera

      June 15, 2014 at 10:35 pm

      • Opera, like the Tories, where’s your proof of claim ?

        gaia

        June 16, 2014 at 7:18 am

      • Opera. I’m a working single mum. I cook. From scratch n still find it hard to manage. I don’t drink or smoke either… so your answer to that is….?

        kat rehman

        June 16, 2014 at 7:28 am

      • Opera, do try using your brain. I know it is hard being so tiny, but do make an effort, Good quality fruit and veg, and meat is expensive. Less nutritious food is cheaper and many people on benefits struggle to feed their families, let alone pay for all utilities, debts, rent.. and pay out for good quality food. I use to be on minimum benefits and I could not afford both fresh fruit and veg. I bought one or the other. I went with the veg. Get off your tory mantra high horse.

        Emma

        June 19, 2014 at 11:15 pm

  5. Feckless Parents? Will that mean capping Mp’s expensese in their subsidised parilmentary bars and resturants.

    growls

    June 15, 2014 at 1:13 am

  6. Unless the tories intend to punish working parents by way of fines also, this proposal will struggle to see the light. This government like the police force are way to quick to attack the indirectly linked rather than deal with the perpetrator themselves.

    Kids don’t listen to their parents, tell them no that’s bad and instantly you have just created a taboo you know their going to test to the limits. To make matters worse a parent cant even in the real sense punish their kids effectively anymore and that’s if the child doesn’t threaten to call social services and invent a story.

    This is a classic case of the tories yet again looking at ways of circumnavigating the law so they can reduce the second biggest financial burden to welfare after pensions which is family and kids. They succeeded with housing at getting round the not making you homeless law so who knows how far they will get with this one if people yet again sit idle expecting common sense to prevail.

    gaia

    June 15, 2014 at 10:56 am

  7. And slashing their benefits will what effect on their diet? Seems to me this MP is not overly endowed with brain cells, specifically those that enable logical thinking.

    Ratty

    June 15, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    • Like keeping her notes out of sight of cameras.

      Another Fine Mess

      June 15, 2014 at 11:46 pm

  8. Yeah I’m so feckless I can’t afford the pub, I already hardly eat so my child can. And if was social services who pushed me into single parenting and out of job to ‘promote’ my sons wellbeing by putting us on benefit

    paul

    June 15, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    • Try and grow some vegetables in your garden if you have one, you can save a fortune on shop prices

      Opera

      June 15, 2014 at 10:37 pm

      • Do you think the unemployed are allowed spare gardens.

        Another Fine Mess

        June 15, 2014 at 11:50 pm

      • A lot of people don’t have a garden but even if they did I doubt its size would be big enough to grow a full years crop, especially when you have to factor in field rotation needed to keep infestation down. Then theirs the cost of feed, insecticide, fungicide, PH balancer and all the other chemicals needed for a proper grow (wilkos products wont cut it).
        The next problem is if someone does have the space is that in the UK our soil is by majority clay based meaning poor water filtering which inturn creates poor crops no matter what feed you use. Then theirs do you have a sun facing garden for the majority of the day as if not again your crop will suffer.

        So its not a simple case of have garden, will grow veg and to save you the time, growing a few veg wont save you that much money considering the amount of variants we eat per annum including what you missed which is fruit.

        To make matters worse the worlds crops have suffered dew to the climates weather and England was no exemption. My crop is 1 tenth of what it was last year and its all come later than it should have come.

        So reduced space and poor crop yield saves how much exactly ?

        Another thing is the unemployed must search for work 35 hours a week when DWP tell them to so during daylight or get placed on a 6 month placement working in daylight again (this also applies to the working) so come winter time, how much gardening are they going to get in exactly when its pitch black come 4 o clock at sun up and sun down, how are the unemployed going to afford to run a 1500 W lamp inorder to garden ?

        Im all for gardening, I do it myself but its not as simple as 1 2 3 if you want a proper crop that will sustain you.

        gaia

        June 16, 2014 at 8:06 am

      • Gardening is hard work and you need experience.

        I’ve had an allotment for years and it does make a big difference (the rent and the seeds do not cost a lot) during about 6 months of the year.

        I’ve seen people take a plot up with no knowledge of how to do this, the patience it needs, and the skills, and they do not always do well – though many do.

        Andrew Coates

        June 16, 2014 at 3:07 pm

  9. This article applies to Britain, but it might give Harper ideas.

    maryposie

    June 16, 2014 at 12:21 am

    • I dumped some budgie seeds in my garden. Didn’t get any budgies, some very ”strange” plants came up though.

      Thompsonmorgan.co.uk

      June 17, 2014 at 9:55 am

      • They don’t work, they are hemp for old rope, without well,you know species same but…….you know

        Andrew Coates

        June 17, 2014 at 10:41 am

      • But would the plants make cash You Know MONEY FOR OLD ROPE

        Mr Northolt

        June 30, 2014 at 10:43 am

  10. What about the children of working families trust me some of them are worse. One did 3 grand damage to my car verbally abused me before my 3yr old took off a padlock and stole it all because I asked him not to use my garden as a shortcut to his fav smoking area nr the school . No witnesses and he told his mother I threw him round the garden she refused to talk to people who could not hear what he was saying but did see I did not and she then threatened me, her poor six foot tall 13yr old was innocent. Now he has been suspended from school for verbally abusing teachers and spray painting the school toilets before witnesses and she is still saying her poor boy is innocent. I lost 20yrs no claims on my car because of him. So what will they be doing to working parents cos my daughter is top of her class and way above average on every subject well behaved and has 99 % attendance gets little reward at school compared to the naughty children. It’s not all about the unemployed having bad kids trust me. I’d be vasly more impressed if they did something across the board. And before anyone starts I am actively looking for work .

    Hallo

    June 16, 2014 at 7:07 am

    • Hallo:

      Why don’t you give these fuckers a taste of their own medicine, also with no witnesses.

      Carlos

      June 16, 2014 at 9:52 am

  11. there are two solutions to this.

    1) welfare benefits should be given in vouchers and not in a monetary value. This would stop people using the same old excuse that healthy food is expensive, when it is NOT! And it would stop them spending the money on fags and booze.
    2) Change peoples attitudes. The underlying problem is laziness, as parents would prefer to plonk their kids in front of the tv all evening, not get them out for some exercise. They would rather put out unhealthy freezer food from Iceland than take 5 mins to prepare something tasty and healthy.

    prettyhalo

    June 16, 2014 at 7:21 am

    • I don’t think you have thought your point through their prettyhalo

      Your idea point one wont work, as far back as rationing the blackmarket often traded goods for vouchers. No matter how clever you play it, the two can still be transferred.

      As for point two, clearly you don’t have kids as their on their consoles and not watching TV besides the likes of game of thrones. I do agree that a lot of kids (from both working and non working families) don’t go out enough but in a world destined to live a virtual life online in decades to come I feel all your witnessing is a change of behaviour inline with technological evolution. Infact its already proven that a child will meet and play with more people online than they ever will on their local street so besides health are actually broadening the experience of development. Not playing out also reduces real world physical opportunities for pedos, rapists and other bad influences that corrupt or ruin children today. Not going out will reduce people to the exposure of smoking, drinking and taking drugs so theirs as many pros as their is cons in this game of in or out.

      As for freezer food, the majority of people working or not cant actually cook beyond the basics and stop with this 5 min crap as all you will achieve in that time frame is washed veg and boiled water awaiting said veg unless your promoting washing and eating raw carrots in which case I take it your promoting salad all day, everyday?

      gaia

      June 16, 2014 at 8:43 am

      • Absobloodyloutely gaia, well said.

        Florence

        June 16, 2014 at 10:00 am

    • 2) Change peoples attitudes.

      Yes, yours needs changing.

      The underlying problem is laziness.

      Yes, yours – do some research.

      After regular bills what’s left for food some weeks is £0, how would you voucher for that. Or can these food vouchers be used for gas, electric, council tax, water rates, rent, mobile phone, internet access, travel, clothes, shoes, gardening tools.

      Another Fine Mess

      June 16, 2014 at 2:03 pm

  12. Poor diet . . . might that just not possibly have something to do with low benefits?

    Rudi Affolter

    June 16, 2014 at 5:17 pm

  13. When David Cameron was 8 years old his parents sent him away to a top boarding school where he was deprived of love and taught to believe that he and his rich friends were better than everyone else. If only his parents had received parenting lessons this country wouldn’t be in such a mess.

    Michael Powell

    June 17, 2014 at 3:09 am

  14. […] his manifesto for the next general election, and its going to be bursting with fucking corkers: https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/tories-to-punish-feckless-parents-on-benefits/ One thing which is clear, is that when this shit hits the fan, the chinless DC will be fucking […]

  15. “We don’t need to solve problems, we just need to blame everyone else”

    Remember this tory mantra for the upcoming elections because that’s precisely all they have done since being in office todate. Not one single time have they reframed from accusing another party, another private contractor, the civil service departments, the public and even when that’s all used up their even turn on each other.

    IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT IN OFFICE, TO BE CONSTANTLY PRESUMED AND NANNIED BY THOSE THAT CANT EVEN GET IT RIGHT THEMSELVES, THAT DISTANCES THEMSELVES FROM THEIR OBLIGATIONS AS MINISTERS ?

    ITS BAD ENOUGH THAT TODAYS GOVERNMENT SUCK AT IT, BUT ITS AN EVEN MORE TERRIFYING PROSPECT TO KNOW THAT LABOUR OR ANY OTHER PARTY FOR THAT FACT ARENT ANY CLOSER TO BEING UP TO THE TASK EITHER.

    gaia

    June 17, 2014 at 10:34 am

  16. Who makes snide callus uncaring remarks without considering the feelings of others, who makes stuff up, who changes the rules to suit themselves, who dreams beyond the reasonable , CHILDREN DO, yet each and everyone of these traits can be directly linked to our current government.

    DO WE REALLY WANT THE BIGGEST KIDS TELLING US HOW TO RAISE OUR OWN

    When and if this comes in do as your government do when in rome and pass the blame onto them as failed role models, that teach our children its ok to be cruel and insensitive, ok to lie, to be selfishly manipulative, to reside over others less able to defend themselves, to blame others for our short comings and failures to succeed.

    SOME CALL IT TOUGH LOVE, PERSONALLY I CALL IT BLACKMAIL

    gaia

    June 17, 2014 at 12:16 pm

  17. Gala: I feel sorry for your kids if this is your attitudes! get your kids out on an evening when its warm, to a park etc. get them involved in clubs – swimming, gymnastics there is a whole load of activities they can join, especially for when its cold. They do not have to be let out by themselves! It sounds as if your kids are cooped up all the time! poor things.

    sorry if i got mixed up, but im sure being plonked in front of the tv is about as active as playing on their consoles……am i wrong? unless your talking about a wii fit maybe.

    And yes, it doesnt take long to prepare something healthy. about the same time as the soaps no doubt youll be sitting in front of on a night!

    prettyhalo

    June 17, 2014 at 10:12 pm

    • Seriously prettyhalo, that’s the best you can do, cant get round what I said so come back making it personal and presumably vindictive. Not exactly a flattering trait so hardly makes you the best person to advocate what and whats good for the development of a child.

      Adding your presumed assumptions as regard electronic technology and the real world which are all wrong by the way I suggest you sit down and instead of posting me spend the time researching subjects more thoroughly.

      Most trades are not physically demanding as they use to be and with everyday is made easier and easier by you guessed it electronic technology and what controls this, that’s right, software. And what does software work on, that’s right a PC.

      You name it, MANUFACTURING,CONSTRUCTION,ETC, all utilise technology as far as they can so in point of fact these days the body actually requires less activity what with not requiring humans to hunt and forage any longer.So does playing outside benefit a childs development more than one on a PC, well of course not.

      As for playing out I stated I endorsed kids don’t get out enough but you omitted to acknowledge that during your attempt to be spiteful in a post so don’t try and insinuate im advocating only one path. In health science you eat what your body exerts so the less exertion, the less food needed so for the purposes of maintenance a child briskly walking to and from school say at least 2 miles everyday is quite adequate in terms of fitness. What you and a lot of parents fail to understand is you exert and replace and NOT fill and exert.

      All i did in my last post was simply prove that their are as many benefits to electronics like Pcs and yes now consoles and even TV sets all giving the options to go on the internet for anything over the benefits of simply playing out, that what a child does during their development must be proportioned correctly so considering a child will need to know technology and is hardly likely to become that professional footballer, film star or musician, it only stands to reason that its significance is placed appropriately above and NOT instead of which I NEVER claimed.

      Oh before parting what is the different types of food you personally prepare from start to finish flatout in 5 min that isn’t a salad, pot noodle or previously prepared then popped into a microwave to finish it off, better still don’t as its not how long it takes to prepare a good diet but what and how you prepare it that truly matters?

      gaia

      June 18, 2014 at 2:59 pm

      • Woops, should have put 2 miles each way everyday.

        gaia

        June 18, 2014 at 3:01 pm


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