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UKIP Hate the Unemployed.

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Hates  the Out-of-work. 

 

For a party so concerned about jobs and unemployment in the UK this is the attitude of their party towards  the out-of-work ( April  2014 )is worth a look. (link).

After Scrapbook exposed sick comments from a UKIP councillor on banning unemployed people from voting, the party’s most high-profile new recruit has rushed to his defence, claiming Cllr Tom Bursnall “has a point”, going on to say it is “dangerous” to let unemployed people vote.

Having defected from the Tories, 23 year-old Alexandra Swann was the star turn at UKIP’s recent conference in Skegness — with party leader Nigel Farage proudly declaring that “the Swann has migrated”.

But appearing to agree with Cllr Bursnall, who as the former chair of Conservative Future is also a defector from the Tories to UKIP, she continued:

“allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they dont contribute — is dangerous”

With these views we are unnsurprised to learn that Swann idolises anarcho-Libertarian philosophers and is completing a PhD in social Darwinism.

And this Guardian (March 2013)

Some long-term benefit claimants would be banned from using their benefit cash to buy cigarettes, alcohol or satellite TV subscriptions under proposals due to be presented at the UK Independence party’s spring conference on Saturday.

In the same year UKIP described the unemployed as a ” “a parasitic underclass of scroungers”.

UKIP’s welfare policies include forced unpaid work for all Housing and Council Tax Benefit claimants, Incapacity Benefit (now ESA) slashed to Job Seeker’s Allowance rates and childcare support for working parents demolished.

To add to this UKIP Welfare Policy is also 

• Non means-tested “basic cash benefit” for low earners and unemployed. Jobseekers allowance andincapacity benefit is scrapped.

• Child benefit for the first three children only.

• No benefits for anyone who has not lived in the UK for five years.

For the  2014 elections (UKIP site) these policies stand unchanged :

• Enrol unemployed welfare claimants onto community schemes or retraining workfare programmes.

That is, unpaid workfare.

• Make welfare a safety net for the needy, not a bed for the lazy. Benefits only available to those who have lived here for over 5 years.

That is, yet more scapegoating of the out-of-work – and ‘foreigners’.

To phrase a coin UKIP are bleeding  filth.

 

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Written by Andrew Coates

May 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm

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  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    May 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm

  2. Professional Politicians,sucking on the public Teat for generations,bring back the Guillotine and roll on the Revolution!

    jray

    May 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    • Yeah, praise Marx and pass the ammunition!

      jj joop

      May 29, 2014 at 4:54 pm

  3. The above UKIP comment just demonstrates how ill equipped they are to govern.

    We currently have 1.14 million claimants meaning 1.76 % of the total population. How on earth will that sway a vote for them. To make matters worse theirs a high probability that a lot of their votes recently are infact dew to support from the very people they seek to segregate.

    People say a lot of things, take the UK ID card for instance, it doesn’t make it so and may well be another attempt by the tories to smear UKIP for fear of suffering defeat in the next elections be it UKIP (unlikely) or the more likely outcome strip enough votes to allow another party in like labour perhaps.

    gaia

    May 30, 2014 at 8:28 am

  4. FAO: of Andrew Coates/administrator(s) of intensiveactivity.wordpress.com

    May I bring it to the attention of the above mentioned partie(s) that the identities of MWA placement providers are commercially confidential and a closely guarded secret. Publication or dissemination by other means of this confidential information is a breach of DWP policy and against the Law.

    You are hereby instructed to take this notice as a Final Warning. You must with immediate effect remove from your website all references as to the identity of MWA placement providers. You are further instructed to Cease and Desist from publishing or otherwise disseminating the identities of MWA placement providers.

    DWP Legal Department

    legal@gsi.dwp.gov

    May 30, 2014 at 11:27 am

    • Fuck off!

      jj joop

      May 30, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      • NO

        DWP

        May 30, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      • Say Please

        DWP

        May 31, 2014 at 8:24 am

      • Oh go on, I’ll be your friend.

        jj joop

        May 31, 2014 at 8:38 am

  5. Hello nut job or crap solicitor, you pick?

    A closely guarded secret, hmmm, perhaps you should have told MWA PPs that with their big ass websites, facebook pages and twitter feeds. While your at it I suppose you could tell your lazy ass boss, your ministers that to as they all cant just shut their pie holes either can they ?

    If Edward Snowdens a snitch then our entire government, all parties and the civil service must be a sink hole of epic proportions.

    Hows that for a reply dear legal department or would you prefer something a little more formal like “see you in court so I can thank you for the opportunity to not be on MWA what with fulfilling my civic obligation as the accused” or maybe something a little more activist in vision like ” for every site you take down, a thousand relaying the exact data will appear in its place”.

    gaia

    May 30, 2014 at 12:31 pm

  6. i got 4 weeks mwa with army of angles i put my reply on there face book page and there sat on 5000k in the bank so can pay wages and still have to do job search as well and apply for 14 jobs so more like 60hrs a week.

    what happened to if you do more than 16hrs you are not available for work? could have done a full time course rather than this shit and still have nothing to put on a cv as its not paid work.

    and i just finished a 6 week placement with the same provider that the mwa is with so the dwp are paying private company’s 3 times more a month than i receive in benefits.

    since i left the wp the dwp has spent 2000 quid on useless so called courses 1 after the other to get me to sign off what a fkn joke.

    super ted

    May 30, 2014 at 2:54 pm

  7. Tory minister Esther McVey accused of running scared after cancelling showdown with MSPs for second time.

    THE employment minister, labelled McVile for her defence of the bedroom tax and welfare cuts, cancelled a private meeting with Holyrood’s welfare committee planned for next month.

    Last night, opponents accused the former TV presenter, labelled McVile for her defence of the bedroom tax and welfare cuts, of running scared.

    SNP MSP Kevin Stewart said: “This is extremely disappointing but not a surprising decision by Esther McVey, who is treating Holyrood with contempt.

    “This Tory Government is running scared of justifying punitive policies like the bedroom tax. No wonder, given how unpopular they are in Scotland.”

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/tory-minister-esther-mcvey-accused-3625118

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 30, 2014 at 3:21 pm

  8. Razor blades/cat litter in Burgess Hill food bank donations

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-27639185

    ken

    May 30, 2014 at 5:31 pm

  9. Why Iain Duncan Smith should resign.

    His welfare schemes keep imploding, severely ill people keep being declared fit for work and so many people are falling through cracks in the benefits system that food bank use surpassed a million this year. Yet Iain Duncan Smith soldiers on. The media seem obsessed with discussing Ed Miliband’s appearance, but the man who has overseen the chaos and misery of the Department of Work and Pensions is still in his job – a serious media would call for this ridiculous man to resign.

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2014/05/why-iain-duncan-smith-should-resign/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 31, 2014 at 8:23 am

  10. […] One star of the recent UKIP conference in Skegness was 23 year old Alexandra Swann, who is writing a phd on social darwinism. Her deep empathy for ordinary people was revealed when she came out with this fucking pearl: “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they dont contribute — is dangerous”: https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/ukip-hate-the-unemployed/ […]

  11. […] darwinism. Her deep empathy for ordinary people was revealed when she came out with this fucking pearl: “allowing people to vote on how other people’s money is spent — if they dont contribute — […]

    Gabriel Vents

    May 31, 2014 at 10:03 am

    • Apart from anything else active UKIP members include a large proportion who are madder than members of flying saucer cults:

      UFO/FLYING SAUCER CULTS

      http://hirr.hartsem.edu/ency/UFO.htm

      Andrew Coates

      May 31, 2014 at 11:23 am

      • Sorry Andy – from my earlier 60’s to 70’s Sci Fi days.

        Welcome to the UFO Series Home Page, devoted to the 1970 British science fiction television series UFO, created by Gerry & Sylvia Anderson and starring Ed Bishop as Commander Straker.

        http://ufoseries.com/

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        May 31, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      • Anyone remember ‘Sky One’ from the t.v. series ‘UFO’ – if they can or do – please answer this simple question – What was Sky One and what could it do?

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        May 31, 2014 at 7:07 pm

      • Sky one? force feed you fox news view of the world

        growls

        May 31, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      • 🙂

        Anna Botox (Sky News)

        May 31, 2014 at 10:12 pm

      • Compulsory Viewing Before The Pubs Opened On Sunday Mornings. 10;30-11;30 AM

        Philip

        June 2, 2014 at 8:34 am

      • It Was An Upper Atmosphere Orbiting Platform. The ”Angles” Female Fighter Pilots In Tight Lycra Suits Were Base On It

        Middlesex

        June 1, 2014 at 9:26 am

      • I’ve seen a UFO, seriously, they do exist!

        Landless Peasant

        June 1, 2014 at 9:54 pm

      • I agree, I’ve seen a silently flying craft myself, and then 24 hours later found that it was seen by many and followed on radar. So whatever they are they do exist.

        Another Fine Mess

        June 3, 2014 at 12:35 am

      • I agree, I’ve seen a silently flying craft myself, and then 24 hours later found that it was seen by many and followed on radar. So whatever they are they do exist.

        Another Fine Mess

        June 3, 2014 at 12:36 am

      • Dunno why I can’t get this reply under Landless Peasant.

        Another Fine Mess

        June 3, 2014 at 12:38 am

      • If Large BLACK TRIANGLE. Seen reports on TV too. Somebody suggested it could be out of Groom Lake Or Area 51

        Middlesex5000

        June 3, 2014 at 9:04 am

      • In Suffolk we have our very own UFO trail,

        “Rendlesham UFO Trail.”

        http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/EnglandEastAngliaNoForestRendleshamWoodRendleshamForestCentreUFOTrail

        Andrew Coates

        June 3, 2014 at 9:45 am

  12. Reblogged this on My Little Underground and commented:
    So you’re unemployed and voted UKIP. Problem is, they fucking hate you……….

    Horselover Fat

    May 31, 2014 at 4:44 pm

  13. Long-term unemployed people to be forced to join the army?

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/may/29/army-training-scheme-unemployed?CMP=twt_gu

    JBS

    May 31, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    • I’m sorry, they want to give me a gun?
      How much ammo would come with that? about 360 rounds maybe?

      kath gray

      June 5, 2014 at 2:36 pm

  14. These are the very people who voted UKIP. Those who blamed immigrants and migrant workers for taking their jobs. The ones UKIP exploited most be saying that Immigrants and migrants had stolen their jobs. Now UKIP return to their true values. Very hard right Tories.
    Come on people wake up.

    Cllr. Ian Blackburn

    June 1, 2014 at 10:15 am

  15. Reblogged this on seachranaidhe1.

    seachranaidhe1

    June 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

  16. ” A parasitic underclass of scroungers”. Sums up UKIP MEPs rather well.

    Ged Hession

    June 1, 2014 at 2:25 pm

  17. FOR ALL THOSE ENQUIRING ABOUT THE HELP TO WORK SCHEME

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/tory-minister-charge-cruel-benefits-3471636

    Yet again the Tories ignore direct evidence proving to the contrary so as to push ahead with their latest draconian measures while wasting more tax payers money.

    gaia

    June 1, 2014 at 4:13 pm

    • You missed the “Record View”, gaia: “Record View: Help to Work scheme is a jolly good idea and about bloody time too!” 😀

      Nympho

      June 1, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    • HtW isn’t about helping the jobless; it’s about being seen to be tough on them. They want the public to think we’re all a bunch of White Dee’s.

      jj joop

      June 2, 2014 at 8:28 am

      • You think to small jj joop. While indeed this is to say the least a punitive measure its more to do with the minimum wage.

        Its no secret that the tories have always detested the nat min, don’t be beguiled by recent considerations because the government also said
        ” The minimum wage for millions of people could have to be capped or frozen in future if it risks damaging jobs or the economy”.
        They also said
        ” It has told the Low Pay Commission, which sets the minimum wage, that it must formally consider its impact on “employment and the economy”, before agreeing future increases. The change, which will be written into the Commission’s new terms of reference, raises the prospect of the first ever across-the-board freeze or cut in the minimum wage for everyone if the economic uncertainty continues”.

        This was said only last year.

        11 Attacks On The Minimum Wage The Tories May Come To Regret

        http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/08/minimum-wage-tories_n_4559697.html

        Your notice one IDS voicing an opinion against so no points for guessing why his office point blank refuses to discuss the nat min in relation to the HELP TO WORK SCHEME.

        Im all for working for my benefit but if im going to work as lets face it, it doesn’t take 2 seconds to teach a person how to pick up litter or clean a statue so is hardly a work experience or training when you factor in 6 months of that I should be entitled to the nat min.

        So Nympho if your out their, “why exactly is it fair I should not receive the nat min” especially considering I don’t claim any other benefit but JSA meaning a hourly wage of £2.41.

        “Are you suggesting all non skilled jobs should be exempt from national min because that’s what your advocating if you support this current scheme”.

        gaia

        June 2, 2014 at 9:53 am

      • You are saying what middle-class knobs with good jobs say, gaia: “I don’t mind the unemployed working for their benefits as long as they receive the NMW (btw I am on a lot more than that 🙂 but hey ho :)” Almost as if the NMW is some sort of Holy Grail, something to be aspired to 😉 Or the other one is: “I don’t mind the unemployed working for their benefits, so long as it’s of benefit for the community and not for a profit-making company.” i.e. I want to see the unemployed out and about being humiliated in their loud jackets scraping up dog-shit with their teeth as I drive past in my Beemer on my way to work laughing.” Don’t insult our (lack) of intelligence, gaia. The NMW is a SHIT wage!

        Bumblebee

        June 2, 2014 at 11:19 am

      • PS “Oh, and it might save a few ££s on my council tax, be able to afford a new set of alloys for the Beemer.”

        Bumblebee

        June 2, 2014 at 11:22 am

      • I”m all for working for my benefit” ?! WTF!? Why on God’s Earth would you want to “work for you benefit”? ffs? Would you not prefer to be in an employed position i.e. being PAID!! What the fuck are you on gaia, seriously. I doubt that you have ever signed on, you sound like some retired civil servant sat in a tweed skirt and itchy knickers stroking a black cat!

        Bumblebee

        June 2, 2014 at 11:27 am

      • Shouldn’t have to work for benefits isn’t on the table bumblebee and just like every other one of their schemes irrespective of the outcome, it will come to pass like it or not.

        It must be nice in your rose coloured sanctum, you know the one where the countries massive debt that cant be paid off doesn’t exist, where borrowing never replaced tax and national insurance contributions that fund governmental departments like welfare to name but one, where the prime minister actually knows your name, where its all going to return to the way it once was and all will be good in the world ever more.

        Now, wake up and stir your coffee, that’s right, come back to the real world where other than a portioned statistic of 0.000001545 % of the total population, no one in government knows you exist get it.

        When IDS, Osborne or any other politician is busy beavering austerity their most certainly not thinking of sticking it to the people they hate, they simply looking at money, yes that’s right, they only see checks and balances plain and simple and NOT HUMAN BEINGS.

        Oh for the record the Tories are destroying the middleclass to make way for a clear divide of classes, namely the haves and have not’s, yep im afraid this is very so.

        Do yourself a favour bumblebee and learn something about capitalism, economics and governance before returning as then you might know what on earth your babbling on about before commenting on such things as safety nets that had they not been here would have seen under this tory government far more working people below the poverty line.

        gaia

        June 3, 2014 at 1:54 pm

  18. More construction apprentices expected, long term careers so called offered

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-27523745

    That’s funny as back in 2009

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7988636.stm

    If employers can just cast you out at the sign of a recession, what possible incentive is their to choose this as a worthy career sector ?

    Oh and lets NOT FORGET the BLACK LIST that the TOP CONSTRUCTION FIRMS USE to DISCRIMINATE against those that wont suck their di*ks.

    DONT CHOOSE CONSTRUCTION, CHOOSE ENGINEERING INSTEAD.

    gaia

    June 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm

  19. Look out Harrogate – Here comes Universal Credit.

    Harrogate and Knaresborough MP, Andrew Jones, and Skipton and Ripon MP, Julian Smith joined Job Centre staff and claimants at Harrogate Job Centre to launch the new Universal Credit in the Harrogate district.

    http://www.harrogate-news.co.uk/2014/05/31/mps-launch-universal-credit-harrogate/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 1, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    • “Job Centre Plus Operating Manager for North Yorkshire, Gill Hall joined Mr Jones at the launch and said: Universal Credit is transforming the way we interact with our customers .”

      It certainly is transforming the way JCP interact with their customers. It’s making it easier to sanction the fucking arses off us than ever before.

      jj joop

      June 1, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    • Nice post Obi Wan but is it the full UC or the scaled down version meaning for instance homeless people cant go on it ?

      I do hope its the full version as I would love to see this in full swing what with all the other calamities it has suffered to date in its operation.

      It will be very interesting to see what the low paid especially those with kids claiming working tax credits think of it ?

      gaia

      June 2, 2014 at 11:06 am

  20. UKIP are Fascist scum.

    Landless Peasant

    June 1, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    • Has anybody heard about wpp’s now out sourcing their courses to othe providers or actually had this themselves?

      Mbxk

      June 4, 2014 at 8:15 am

  21. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog.

    beastrabban

    June 1, 2014 at 9:13 pm

  22. Reblogged this on Britain Isn't Eating.

    A6er

    June 1, 2014 at 10:05 pm

  23. Reblogged this on Vox Political.

    Mike Sivier

    June 2, 2014 at 1:03 am

  24. ukip say out loud what the conservatives are thinking but you can be sure they both think the same and are the same under the hood

    they are both like the kings and princes of Saudi all ok on the news and for the world to see but pure hell for the unemployed the sick and disabled who live there and yes i have friends there and know first hand on what life is like

    Nick

    June 2, 2014 at 10:02 am

  25. Here’s some news that’ll fill you with good cheer, depending on how you look at it. On the one hand, we may be shot of McVey soon. But on the other, it would appear that she is being rewarded for treating us like shit.

    “Esther McVey, the former GMTV presenter who has impressed over the past year in her role as employment minister under Iain Duncan Smith, is tipped to be given her own department.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645755/Ken-Clarke-set-axe-Cabinet-reshuffle-make-room-high-flying-women.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    jj joop

    June 2, 2014 at 12:30 pm

  26. The UK government’s Department for Work and Pensions is “in denial” about the causes of an increase in food bank use, according to a Holyrood committee.

    In a new report, MSPs argued welfare changes were a “significant cause” of the rise in demand.

    The committee said it was particularly concerned about benefit sanctions and called on the UK government to “recognise that people are struggling to meet their basic need for food due to its direct action”.

    “There’s no doubt that the increase can be connected directly to benefit sanctions and other issues.

    “And it’s not just those who are without income completely who are dependent on food banks, it’s also low paid workers.”

    MSPs also argued food bank provision should not be allowed to become a substitute for welfare state provision.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27640544

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 2, 2014 at 4:04 pm

  27. Published on 24 Apr 2014

    MPs Iain Duncan Smith and Esther McVey were alighting from a car outside Parliament when journalist Sonia Poulton spotted them. It’s brief but it shows that IDS, a former solider (apparently) is far from an officer and a gentleman…

    Iain Duncan Smith and Esther McVey running from the truth.

    Coward!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm

  28. BBC News – Duncan Smith on book claim that Osborne thinks he is ‘thick’.

    Well IDS, we all know you’re thick!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 2, 2014 at 6:09 pm

  29. Reblogged this on UNEMPLOYED IN TYNE & WEAR.

    untynewear

    June 3, 2014 at 7:05 am

  30. Boycott Workfare.

    Name and Shame workfare exploiters.

    http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=1703

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 10:50 am

  31. Bloody Hell, look at this:

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 10:55 am

  32. I’ve just got 7 bottles of Hoegaarden for 30p each – end of stock.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 5:05 pm

  33. SWINDON Jobcentre saw its third protest against the Department of Work and Pensions sanctioning policy on jobseekers’ benefits yesterday.

    Angel Grace, 42, from Freshbrook, was the organiser of the demonstrations against ATOS, She said: “There weren’t as many people who came along as last time but it’s still raising more awareness.

    “It shouldn’t be called a Job Centre. It’s like the workhouse. We are going backwards.

    “People go into the Job Centre and they are just getting depressed. They feel they are just getting punished, and people shouldn’t be punished just because they don’t have a job.

    http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/11252656.display/?ref=twtrec

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 7:26 pm

  34. June 5th 2014.

    Protest at the G4S Annual General Meeting.

    While it continues to make billions from human rights abuses and privatisation, it’s not all good news for G4S, the world’s biggest security company.

    Universities, charities, and trade unions across the world have cancelled contracts worth millions of pounds with the company.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/286747888161707/?ref=52&source=1

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 7:31 pm

  35. Occupy London:

    Job Centre Demo Southend on Sea by Carl Green.

    (This is a good read which includes videos of the demo)

    June 2, 2014.

    http://occupylondon.org.uk/job-centre-demo-southend-on-sea-by-carl-green/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 3, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    • Even though theirs not enough video posted to Obi Wans link to say what this person had done its worth mentioning to any who seek to protest outside DWP to first announce this plan to the police force in your area. Generally as long as you don’t block public pathways and or accost the public, the police will acknowledge this protest and the duty sergeant will have it on record. This in turn will make it if abided by (record the event in realtime) impossible for DWP/security staff to have you removed.

      gaia

      June 4, 2014 at 9:22 am

  36. There is a fair bit in this excellent report to read so I have just posted some highlights.

    Iain Duncan Smith: a reputation beyond accountability?

    In politics it is more constructive to focus on policies and ideas rather than on individuals. In footballing terminology, it is better to ‘play the ball, not the man’. Very occasionally however, a politician becomes so wedded to a policy that their personal reputation and the credibility of the policy become inextricably linked: they may stand or fall together. Arguably this is now the case with Iain Duncan Smith, welfare reform and his flagship policy, Universal Credit.

    Whilst the Secretary of State is given respect for his work in this field, he rarely shows equal respect to his critics. He has taken the unusual step for a Cabinet Minster of blaming civil servants for problems with Universal Credit, and has simply dismissed criticism from; the Public Accounts Committee, the Institute for Fiscal Studies, the Office for National Statistics, the National Audit Office, the Department for Work and Pensions Select Committee, numerous charities, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the UN, the EU….The list is long. His Department has acquired a reputation for being less than careful with statistics, and has been officially rebuked by both the UK Statistics Authority and the Office for National Statistics.

    Mr. Duncan Smith is a Conservative politician who seeks to cut public spending and shrink the state, which is a legitimate position. But when any politician’s commitment or reputation serves as a barrier to questioning his policies, and their consequences when implemented (intended or otherwise), it is surely a barrier to democratic accountability.

    http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/20540

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    June 4, 2014 at 9:30 am

    • Obi Wan Kenobi “quote”

      “Mr. Duncan Smith is a Conservative politician who seeks to cut public spending”
      No matter what the cost!!!

      Hat tip. The Void.

      http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-staggering-of-one-mans-delusions-25-billion-squandered-on-bungled-welfare-reforms/

      ED.

      June 4, 2014 at 10:31 am

    • Nice posts by yourself and ED Obi Wan,

      The only addition I want to make Obi Wan is that the conservatives and not just IDS have borrowed more than any other government to date and this is despite austerity cuts which in actuality are used also for speculative schemes so themselves aren’t infact a saving even though this government claim as such (known as fudging).

      Its the usual case of what you think is happening and what is actually happening is two different things entirely.

      gaia

      June 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm


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