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Full List of Touts Running ‘Community Work Programme’.

with 42 comments

The List of Shame is out (Hat tips to Another Fine Mess and Watching A4E),

We publish this in full – from TWPSolutions.

Following on from our article yesterday on lack of information re who won where on Community Work Placment tender round – we now have the full list from DWP so here it is:-

Community Work Placement Suppliers

 

Contract Package Area  Coverage Supplier
1 East of England: Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire; Cambridge and Suffolk; Essex; Norfolk Seetec
2 East Midlands:  Nottinghamshire; Derbyshire; Lincolnshire and Rutland; Leicestershire and Northamptonshire G4S
3 London West:  Ealing; Hammersmith & Fulham; Brent; Harrow; Hillingdon; Hounslow; Richmond Upon Thames; Kingston Upon Thames; Wandsworth; Enfield; Kensington & Chelsea; Barnet; Camden; Westminster; Islington; Haringey G4S
4 London East:  Hackney; Newham; Tower Hamlets; Barking & Dagenham; Redbridge; Havering; Waltham Forest; City of London; Croydon; Bexley; Lambeth; Bromley; Greenwich; Lewisham; Southwark; Merton and Sutton G4S
5 North East:  Northumbria; South Tyne and Wear Valley; Tees Valley Pertemps
6 North West 1:  Cumbria and Lancashire; Merseyside; Halton G4S
7 North West 2:  Greater Manchester Central, Greater Manchester East and West, Cheshire and Warrington Seetec
8 Scotland :  Ayrshire, Dumfries, Galloway and Inverclyde; Edinburgh; Lothian and Borders; Forth Valley, Fife and Tayside; Glasgow; Highlands, Islands, Clyde Coast and Grampian Learndirect
9 South East 1: Hampshire and Isle of Wight; Thames valley (Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire) G4S
10 South East 2: Kent; Surrey and Sussex Seetec
11 South West 1:  Devon and Cornwall; Dorset and Somerset Rehab
12 South West 2: Gloucester, Wiltshire and Swindon; West of England Seetec
13 Wales: North and Mid Wales, South West Wales; South Wales Valleys; South East Wales Working Links
14 West Midlands 1:  Birmingham and Solihull; Black Country Seetec
15 West Midlands 2:  Coventry and Warwickshire; Staffordshire; The Marches Pertemps
16 West Yorkshire  Interserve
17 South Yorkshire  Interserve
18 North East Yorkshire and The Humber G4S

Comments.

Well,  SEETEC has a very bad reputation to start with …..and it goes downhill after that…..

We are waiting for the list of the ‘voluntary” sector and Charity scabs who will work with this merry crew.

 

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Written by Andrew Coates

May 1, 2014 at 9:49 am

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  1. It really does look as if they just shared out the contract between the primes already running other, similar contracts. The same primes who have performed so badly on delivering the WP.

    Rehab, what a fucking stupid name – a word that carries 50 tons of stigma every time it’s used.

    Lucy

    May 1, 2014 at 10:41 am

  2. Ah but G4S have lots of experience dealing with offenders, and tagging them (no doubt chaining them as well).

    This will surely come in handy when forcing people to clean the streets with their toothbrushes.

    Andrew Coates

    May 1, 2014 at 11:07 am

    • How can G4$ get so many when they haven’t finished paying the tagging fines, and still have two ongoing SFO investigations.
      https://www.google.co.uk/#q=g4s+sfo&tbas=0

      Another Fine Mess

      May 1, 2014 at 11:43 am

    • ALLEGEDLY SUBCONTRACTED FROM ZIEGTECH

      NOREPLY

      May 3, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    • This could prove difficult for them. I don’t own a toothbrush.

      something survived...

      May 13, 2014 at 12:07 am

  3. Spoojer, you said:

    “I seem to be hearing/reading from people that ‘help to work’ is for people leaving the work programme from end of april onwards, and those who went into pwps prior to now, will avoid ‘help to work’. Is that right?”

    I think you may well be right, Spoojer. My then PWPS adviser told me in February that she had heard that stock clients, i.e. those who are currently on PWPS will not go on Help to Work for the time being, and that JCP would be concentrating on those who are about to leave the WP.

    Apparently those of us who are on PWPS are referred to as “stock”, and those who are about to leave the WP are called “live”. WTF!!! I guess we’re the walking dead.

    jj joop

    May 1, 2014 at 11:10 am

    • Yeah jj. Ive read and heard of a few people that have either been told its current wp people leaving end of april onwards that will be affected mostly. Myself personally haven’t been told anything at all from my advisor/coach (or whatever they call themselves now). Only thing I’ve been told, is that me and my advisor will be discussing something next appointment, to see what help might be best for me, otherwise still no mention of HtW or anything/one related to HtW.

      I also know someone else in exact same position as me.. did wp, was pwps from end of summer last year, did a 2 month course end of year with me – and she’s not been told anything and has been offered a course if she wants/finds one of interest, otherwise nothing else has changed.

      Stock.. 😮

      Spoojer

      May 1, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      • 2 month course!!! Was this course mandatory?

        Here in Cambridgeshire, WP returners had to do a mandatory 2 week course at Cambridge Regional College. It’s since been shortened to a week. I’m still waiting to go on it, and I came off WP end of last October. I guess I’m one of the lucky ones.

        jj joop

        May 1, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      • Yeah! I cant remember what the course was called – some kinda employability thing I guess, but people were drafted into the jobcentre in groups, then told they *had* to do this course and couldn’t get out of it.. 8 weeks of completely pointless tasks that really taught nothing and gave little in way of help! Building towers and drawing umpteen colourful posters – ughh.

        The course tutors agreed, and most people on it agreed. It was way too long for what it was – it could have been shortened to 2-4 weeks. Course was ran by the local college and college tutors. Only good point was a nice tutor we had that was fully understanding of how silly it was and did her
        best to help in an otherwise crappy situation!

        Spoojer

        May 1, 2014 at 5:00 pm

  4. Hat tips to Another Fine Mess and
    Not really, TWP, refuted, watching, jj loop…. were all hours ahead of me.

    Another Fine Mess

    May 1, 2014 at 11:30 am

  5. I have finished the WP and PWPS, went to sign on this morning and nothing at all about ‘Help to Work Progamme’ at my local JCP.

    I asked the adviser about it and he hadn’t got a clue what I was talking about!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 1, 2014 at 1:12 pm

  6. Nothing down this way either, I’m not due to sign-on until 19th May because of Bank Holidays, so I will see if they say anything about it then, but I doubt it.

    Carl Lawrence

    May 1, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    • DONT FORGET TO LOGON TO UJM ON THE HOLIDAY OTHERWISE YOU COULD GET SANCTIONED

      FRIENDLY JOBCENTRE WORKER

      May 1, 2014 at 4:43 pm

  7. I highly doubt anyone under 6 months unemployed will escape this HELP TO WORK scheme, especially when you consider most that have long since finished the WP and PWPS have been unemployed the longest considering the time since it all transpired.

    As everyone has already mentioned, DWP are playing dumb, as if they wouldn’t know whats ahead ?

    If it isn’t clear in 4 weeks then its a safe bet all’s not well with the scheme.

    gaia

    May 2, 2014 at 11:24 am

    • Sorry, should have said NOT UNDER 6 MONTHS UNEMPLOYED.

      gaia

      May 2, 2014 at 11:25 am

  8. An anon comment from watchinga4e
    I can confirm that Councils in East Anglia have already been receiving the ‘Hard Sell’ from SeeTec, thankfully most have told them where to go

    Another Fine Mess

    May 2, 2014 at 8:45 pm

    • I think may be they’ve had the unions on their case. Here in Cambridgeshire, the Council recently announced they were going to get rid of about twenty people. If they tried to replace these people with slaves then the unions would almost certainly kick off. So their refusal to participate has nothing to do with common decency really; just politics. Still it’s better than nothing, I suppose.

      jj joop

      May 3, 2014 at 10:44 am

  9. How voluntary organisations messed up the launch of Help to Work.

    On Monday, David Cameron and Iain Duncan Smith launched a new workfare scheme called Compulsory Work Placements – part of a bundle of punitive measures called Help to Work. It ran into a lot of trouble on launch day and hasn’t been doing well since then.

    Over 150 voluntary organisations have signed up to the Keep Volunteering Voluntary campaign to say they won’t take part in any workfare scheme, including Oxfam, Anti-Slavery International, Unison, Unite, and NCIA. And the government won’t be able to fall back on the public sector: Liverpool City Council say they won’t be taking part.

    The pledge was launched on the same day as Help to Work. Already more than twice as many organisations have said they’ll never take part in CWP as the 70 that the government claims are signed up to deliver it. It’s not clear how those 70 organisations are going to be able to arrange for more than 120,000 people to do 780 hours of unpaid work. They’d have to accept more than 1,800 placements each.

    http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=3549

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 3, 2014 at 10:18 am

  10. Another fine mess for the Universal Job-botch website?

    Lawsuits, bogus jobs, and now allegations of fraud.

    Maybe it seemed unkind for George Osborne to suggest that his cabinet colleague Iain Duncan Smith isn’t quite up to the task of reforming the welfare system. But then the chancellor sees the things we don’t see. And perhaps he had in mind the fiasco that has been the Universal Jobmatch website, which jobseekers are obliged to use or face sanction. It has been bedevilled by procurement problems and bogus job openings. And now, what might be fraud. For after much digging by Labour’s Frank Field, we hear allegations that desperate job applicants were each relieved of £65 by an apparently bogus employer working through the government site. It is alleged that having been told they had jobs, they were obliged to part with funds to pay for criminal record checks. The specifics remain a matter for police, but we learn that the Department for Work and Pensions, eager to quell the storm, is already offering 11 complainants compensation. The site works well, says the DWP. Too little, too late perhaps. Field demands an Audit Office inquiry into the site itself.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/22/hugh-muir-diary-universal-job-botch

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    May 3, 2014 at 10:44 am

  11. Job adverts are now appearing (eg for Administration Assistants) which prefer applicants to have a “CTC Level Clearnace” – that’s “Counter Terrorist Check” to you and me!

    Any comments?

    In the meantime, we are all under surveillance:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/03/everyone-is-under-surveillance-now-says-whistleblower-edward-snowden

    Tobanem

    May 3, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    • Do you have pay for the CTC as well – like the CRB (DBS) one?

      Andrew Coates

      May 3, 2014 at 3:06 pm

  12. Whoever/whatever is providing/organising these fucking slave/forced labour CWP ‘placements’ are fucking C***S!! Burn in Hell!!

    CWP Must DIE!!

    May 3, 2014 at 2:55 pm

    • I think it unlikely they’ll burn in Hell. Hell is where these fuckers originate from ih the first place!

      jj joop

      May 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm

  13. The whole point of this slave labour/bullying shite is to drive jobseekers round the bend. It is MASS SUICIDES that these c***s want!

    They Want You DEAD!!

    May 4, 2014 at 11:32 am

  14. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog.

    beastrabban

    May 4, 2014 at 11:35 am

  15. Reblogged this on Vox Political.

    Mike Sivier

    May 4, 2014 at 11:42 am

    • The future’s so bright Mikes gotta wear shades… 🙂

      Timbuk3

      May 5, 2014 at 7:38 am

  16. Reblogged this on UNEMPLOYED IN TYNE & WEAR.

    untynewear

    May 4, 2014 at 11:55 am

  17. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    sdbast

    May 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm

  18. Listen up, Guys. Enough with the reblogging, how about some comments!

    jj joop

    May 4, 2014 at 4:36 pm

  19. “Help to Work” = PUNISHMENT AND HUMILIATION TO DRIVE JOBSEEKERS OF OFF BENEFITS AND INTO DESTITUTION AND SUICIDE!! Fuck you Osborne you fucking C***!!

    George Osborne is a C***!!

    May 5, 2014 at 7:36 am

  20. SEETEC.
    Benefit Sanctions Targets and why Seetec are utter Bastards
    Posted on 15/01/2014 by http://www.refuted.org.uk

    Since publishing revelations that Seetec called the DWP benefits hotline to sanction 4,417 people in one week. Today the DWP released more horrendous stats showing Seetec sanctions targets that by far outstrip all other Work Programme and Mandatory Workfare Activity Providers seeking to make unemployed people destitute, rather than ‘support’ into work.

    Provider Calls Claimants
    A4e 663 2975
    Ingeus 2905 9978
    Seetec 8423 37,557

    And SEETEC are the main one for our own local Job Centre Managers to use
    ( Huntingdon,Cambs )to give out Sanctions to hundreds of desperate people so pushing them deeper into poverty and even lose of their homes.100% Fact.

    SEETEC are based in Peterborough,Cambs.

    Seetec
    Geneva House, 3rd Floor, Park Road, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire PE1 2UX

    Telephone: 01733 565012
    ————————————–
    Seetec Peterborough

    New Priestgate House
    57 Priestgate
    Peterborough PE1 1JX

    Telephone: 01733 312005
    —————————————
    Thread: Seetec Peterborough : re-appeal was allowed and they awarded in my favour

    JSA Complaints about SEETEC, but as planed by JC managers,complaints are ignored and the planed Sanctions are put in place.And why you mite ask,well one is they will receive a bonus from the DWP and two, it shows up as all these poor desperate people some with very young kids and some coming up to retiring age have found work,and this is where the employment figures given out by this Tory Dictatorship as how many have now found work and the economy is on the mend.lmao.

    http://refuted.org.uk/category/seetec/

    Peter

    May 5, 2014 at 9:02 pm

  21. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/05/jobseekers-zero-hours-contracts

    “Jobseekers being forced into zero-hours roles

    Letter from Conservative minister reveals plans to sanction unemployed people if they fail to agree to controversial contracts”

    Samwise Gamgee

    May 5, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    • Its not a simple case of one shoe fits all and really does depend on what each and every zero hour contract states but none the less i will highlight the obvious.

      A contract is an agreement between two or more parties. The agreement should be mutually entered into via voluntary consent (meaning not forcible obtained) by both parties.

      A contract of employment sets out the employers terms and conditions along with what the employee can expect as is their statutory right under employment law.

      A papered contract does not dictate your statutory rights (employment rights), your condition of work dictates that. The contract merely affirms those statutory rights.

      An employer doesn’t have to offer a contract but must offer within two months of starting a written statement of employment particulars that sets out your terms of employment.

      You dont have to have a papered contract inorder for a contract to exist. By agreeing to carryout physical or mental work in receipt for remuneration (pay) forms the basis of a contract. Without an agreed mutual exchange (ie, work for pay), the contract is not legally enforceable and thus void in the eyes of the law.

      AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS ON U GOVs OWN SITE UNDER ACCEPTING A CONTRACT

      I quote “As soon as someone accepts a job offer they have a contract with their employer. An employment contract doesn’t have to be written down”.

      https://www.gov.uk/employment-contracts-and-conditions

      Your interview and agreement of terms and conditions is strictly a private matter between you and the other party/parties involved in said interview/contract. Outside third parties not included/involved in the process have no legal rights to its particular contents with regards you and the other party/parties meaning they are allowed to enquire with said employer as to the generic contents of said contract but not what was discussed personally and privately between the parties involved.

      So if you agree to work for said employer for remuneration regardless of not signing a contract, you have still formed an offer of contract if the employer accepts. If the employer doesn’t except (ie, you not signing a employment contract prior to work commencing), then it is the employer as its not a legal requirement to sign any contract and as such NOT the potential employee that has taken issue and couldn’t reach a resolve.

      Theirs a lot more to this but that’s enough for one day.

      gaia

      May 6, 2014 at 9:19 am

  22. MANDATORY CONSENT?

    Yes, Radio 4 news this morning reported mandatory zero-hours contracts for the unemployed on Universal Credit.

    Not all zero-hours contracts will be mandatory though, but some will be if deemed “suitable” for certain Jobseekers by one of these new Jobcentre “work coaches”.

    We are going to get very inconsistent applications when this latest desperate and mandatory measure is applied across the country. (Mind you, there’s nothing exactly new about that, is there)?

    I still don’t see how any contract can be coerced, given that for any kind of contract to be legal, it needs to have the fully informed and freely given consent of all parties.

    Tobanem

    May 6, 2014 at 7:37 am

    • Yes, unfortunately for those on UC, no longer have the option to refrain from work that is less than 16 hours a week be it temporary or permanent in duration.

      This said it changes nothing as you only need to inform the potential employer that as it is unguaranteed hours that you will or have already entertained and accepted other offers of employment in or to be in addition of the offer just given meaning attendance cant be guaranteed in instances when already offered other employment for those times and hours to which this employer seeks your services if left indeterminate in fact (no times and dates) and the chances are bobs your uncle, you wont get offered the job any longer.

      You see you cannot be punished for being truthful as it is in the best interest of the employer/one half of the party in a contract that you are forth coming in anything that doesn’t mutually benefit both parties as if not it legally implies you haven’t reached an agreement, which in turn implies you don’t have a legally binding contract (papered or non papered).

      Contrary to what DWP might have informed you, AN INTERVIEW is an oversight of the advertised offered position and the area in which you work along with negotiating the terms and conditions of said employment and NOT A LESSON IN A*SE LICKING OR ANY OTHER FORM OF SUBMISSIVE BEHAVIOUR.

      They can only suggest you be courteous and honest, WHICH YOU HAVE.

      gaia

      May 6, 2014 at 10:52 am

  23. F*** this work placement and F*** Seetec and the fact they charge premium rate just to rage

    Jane Crossman

    July 21, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    • I am now on work placement for 6 months but how do I get childcare for my 11 year old son?! Any ideas I would b grateful. Seetec say get childminder but they only pay a fiver of costs.

      Jane Crossman

      July 21, 2015 at 5:16 pm

      • If this is the future of our government then it SUCKS and badly!!!

        Jane Crossman

        July 21, 2015 at 5:20 pm


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