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People’s Assembly Against Workfare.

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Photo: Andrew Coates (aka @Pabloite) from Suffolk People's Assembly speaking against #workfare at The People's Assembly national conference. #PAAAconf14

Andrew Coates  from Suffolk People’s Assembly speaking against #workfare at The People’s Assembly national conference. #PAAAconf14 — with Clare Solomon and Andrew Coates at People’s Assembly

Conference notes the continuing use of compulsory unpaid work (“Workfare”) and the plans to extend them by use of Community Work Placements from April 2014.Conference believes that Workfare:- Does not address the underlying causes of unemployment. It does not reduce unemployment. Enables employers to take advantage of unpaid labour while cutting pay and employment opportunities for others. Penalises and stigmatises unemployed people and Should not exist. All workers be paid the going rate and on the same terms and conditions as other workers.

Conference resolves that:All public bodies, contractors to public bodies, voluntary organisations and charities, as well as all private employers should refuse to accept Workfare placements arranged by Jobcentre Plus or the Work Programme providers.

All supporters of the People’s Assembly should take steps to establish whether or not Workfare placements are being used by organisations they are involved in and take steps to end such placements.
There should be an independent investigation into the Welfare-to-Work industry.Benefit claimants should receive a decent level of benefits, proper training and the best opportunities, without compulsion, to look for paid employment.
The People’s Assembly should campaign against Workfare.”

Passed unanimously.

 

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  1. When the jobcentre tries to grind you down
    To put you in a state of mind that you will just sign-off
    Remember to just keep on signing… 🙂
    Keep on signing… 🙂
    Cos its the only thing to do
    Just keep on signing… 🙂
    Keep on signing… 🙂

    Keep on Signing

    March 16, 2014 at 12:08 pm

  2. Workfare is a stinking pile of crap. Mind you, actual stinking piles of crap have practical applications – unlike this government.

    If you’re disabled you can be sent on workfare and they don’t care it could be totally unsuitable.

    something survived...

    March 16, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    • Just remember to NOT SIGN A DAMN THING if put on CAP unless you want to do the placement as NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT OR THE LIKES isn’t a sanctionable offence NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ADVISOR SAYS OR DOES.

      gaia

      March 17, 2014 at 12:54 am

  3. Totally Agree with the conference 100%
    What can I do to help ?

    Phil

    March 16, 2014 at 8:20 pm

  4. Last week I saw a workfare in my city. A large group of workfare were half of a party of Community Payback people. They had been told to ‘tidy up’ one of the last remaining parks, and to spend all day doing it. The park is tiny. The job would have taken max 4 people half a day, but was given to 30 people for a whole day. The Community Payback people have all been arrested, charged, tried in court, convicted, and sentenced to it. Irespective of health conditions or disabilities. The workfare people, including disabled people, are not convicted criminals. As they had no other waistcoats, all the workfare people are being forced to wear the SAME Community Payback hi-vis orange waistcoats. This, and being with the community payback people, gives everyone the impression (and it’s by the police station too) that the workfare are convicted criminals too. None get any PPE, they are just given a plastic binbag and told to work all day. None are properly supervised, just an overseer who is not a gardener. None of the party are gardeners or trained in gardening. All were getting verbal abuse and spitting from passers-by, generally along the lines of ‘scum’, all day. There was no shelter, toilet, or permission to sit down. They work all day without breaks, food, or water. In heat or cold or rain/wind. When there are used drug syringes, used condoms, and loads of dogturds. The Community Payment only get to stop when their sentence ends. The Workfare never get to stop at all as it’s indefinite. That’s the conditions for the workers; how about the end result for the poor park?

    Result: At the end of the day, the park was trashed. The party removed all the rubbish, but then cut down or hacked to stumps, all plants they could find. They ripped out all the grass, and managed to kill most of the trees in the park. They left dozens of black plastic sacks, which have still not been collected. Result, no real park any more. Taking away all the point of visiting the park. One of the few trees left standing is the mulberry tree that feeds me once a year, thank gods. I hope they’ve left some branches I can reach…

    And the media has referred to it already as a ‘success’!

    War on plants, War on the causes of plants.
    IDS, you killed our community garden. Cunt.

    something survived...

    March 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm

  5. “DWP plans to ditch ridiculed jobs website
    Universal Jobmatch set to be jettisoned after it was found to be carrying a series of fake, repeat or fraudulent jobs ads”

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/mar/16/dwp-jobs-website-universal-jobsmatch

    Another Fine Mess

    March 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    • Why is it that despite getting caught with their pants down lying again but this time about how they monitored the site (yeh and pigs fly) that their still allowed to talk the crap they do.

      If you or I said something that was deemed to be incorrect towards a minister, theyed have us for liable in civil court or if at work have us sacked yet todate I have yet to see any DWP heads roll, especially Mr Mein Führer (IDS) which is after all where the buck must stop.

      Well at least I now understand what the tories meant when they said revolutionised, they meant made it easier to commit fraud than ever before. Now fraud is a criminal offence so if the government want benefit cheats to go to jail for 8 to 10 years then isn’t fair these false fraudsters to UJM should expect the same instead of just having their accounts closed and ads removed,talk about double standards again.

      gaia

      March 17, 2014 at 12:50 am

      • It is civil service / politician double speak , you very rarely catch the experienced ones in an outright lie unless they are are completely inept.

        The claim is ‘they monitored the site’ and no doubt they did even if it was every Feb. 29th , they don’t however claim any action was taken to address any problems found.

        It is weasel words and they are past masters of it , just like the act of sending you a letter when you complain about the DWP means they can say action has been taken and close the complaint without doing anything.

        growls

        March 17, 2014 at 5:30 pm

  6. Universal Jobmatch will be unavailable from 9pm, Monday 17 March to 1am, Tuesday 18 March. You’ll still be able to search for jobs without logging in.

    wish i could get a job where i fucked up everything waste millions and millions of pounds on useless crap not fit for purpose and not get arrested and still get paid.

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 1:31 am

    • I suspect the I.T companies saw DWP coming as now they have them to ransom and the gov is powerless to stop it. Lets hope the UC system doesn’t suffer the same fate, oh wait it has and is now a money pit. Lets not forget how IDS has made fraud of benefit claimers more rife than it ever was so instead of the public doing it, we now see large companies doing it, one after another after another.

      Ministers bang on about the cost of welfare yet they seem to ones wasting it from what I can see.

      Tell me IDS, Was once “i have a dream” now a nightmare or was it your plan all along to shift the opportunity of fraud?

      gaia

      March 17, 2014 at 9:30 am

    • Well Super Ted you could always become a politician, they actually get away with manslaughter too. Just ask the relatives of the disabled victims that have died after being declared “Fit for work”

      Phil

      March 17, 2014 at 9:52 am

  7. gaia

    March 17, 2014 at 9:42 am

  8. Let us wait and see what the budget brings on Wednesday. Could be some surprises coming. (!)

    Philip B

    March 17, 2014 at 10:12 am

  9. 20 HOURS A WEEK JOBSEARCH ON JSA? LIES!

    How many JSA claimants on here have been compelled to seek work for a certain number of hours each week – such as 20 hours or 35 hours?

    There Is NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT to spend any predetermined number of hours seeking work if you are on Jobseeker’s Allowance! Search the regulations, you won’t find any such requirement!

    Likewise, there is no legal requirement for JSA claimants to take any more than 3 jobseeking “steps” each week.

    If you have been told anything else, you have been lied to!

    It’s beyond belief for Jobseekers to be lied to, misadvised, intimidated and sanctioned on a daily basis – with little or nothing being done to defend them.

    Tobanem

    March 17, 2014 at 10:16 am

  10. i over heard an adviser say to someone that they will no longer be getting a job search form and will have to use the ujm site from now on, so there still trying it on and lie to every one that will believe there bs.

    they dont even bother with me any more and in and out faster than ever, they ask me now if i want to see an adviser now.errr nope

    problem is not 1 person there is capable of giving me advice that will be any help what so ever.

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 10:30 am

    • I am still being given the Actively Seeking Work Form {for people with an ujm access allowed account}. Does this now apply to all Jobcentres and clients ?, does anybody know ?

      Philip B

      March 17, 2014 at 11:16 am

    • Thats happened before.however the jobcentre told me they cannot specify how somebody presents their jobsearch.even though they tried it on with a two pages double sided A4 before finally admitting they couldn’t.

      this is repeated here in more moderate tones from what people are “lead to beleave”.

      82.
      We cannot specify to a JSA claimant how they provide us with records of their jobsearch
      activity and Universal Jobmatch
      will not change this – it is not therefore possible to require
      JSA claimants to give DWP access to their Universal Jobmatch account.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/universal_jobmatch_and_providing

      ken

      March 18, 2014 at 5:44 pm

  11. i get the same form to fill in but dont have a ujm account any more as i dont use it cos its bollocks and they cant stop you putting in righting what you did to look for work, just fill in ur own form if they dont give you one or get 1 photo copied and blank out the date at the top.

    nothing they can do about it not that they will tell you that tho helps if you shove a foi request stating it as well 🙂

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 11:33 am

    • OK Thanks Super Ted. I’ll See What Happens When I Next Sign. BTW Is Your JCP Now Doing Signature Comparisons From Previous Signing Times.?. Our One Seems Too Be Doing It But Randomly

      Philip B

      March 17, 2014 at 11:38 am

  12. not that i know off the place is rammed at mine so no time left to do it imo

    i did have a hit squad adviser but it seems he fired me as he cant deal with me as i wont take there bs and tell um so every one can here.

    then get the floor manager to him for taking the piss my one even asked for my docs number to make sure i had an appointment on that day, like they would tell him jack shit anyway under the dpa 🙂

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 11:49 am

  13. gaia :
    Just remember to NOT SIGN A DAMN THING if put on CAP unless you want to do the
    placement as NOT SIGNING A CONTRACT OR THE LIKES isn’t a sanctionable offence NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ADVISOR SAYS OR DOES.

    gaia:

    Your advice is sound, as usual. It is also important for jobseekers to remember that providers CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT sanction you directly for non-compliance. They don’t have that authority. All they can do is report you to the Jobcentre. If a provider asks you to sign an action plan or fill out one of their job logs, just ask them if it’s a legal requirement for you to do this (there isn’t). Ask them to show you exactly where it says you are legally obliged to do this (they won’t). Ask them to put it in writing and send it to your home via recorded delivery (they won’t).

    And if they do rat you out to the Jobcentre, ask your JCP adviser exactly how was the complaint made. Was it verbally, over the phone? Was it in writing? Ask to see a copy of the letter or email. If a provider makes a complaint about you to the Jobcentre you have a right to know, verbatim, exactly what they have said about you. If the Jobcentre won’t play ball, stop the interview immediately and ask to see the floor manager or supervisor. Insist that they amend their electronic/paper databases to reflect everything that has transpired. Make sure you yourself record everything – in triplicate if necessary. Email your statement to the Jobcentre, the provider and the JCP district manager. Because I’ve found if you don’t make a record of these things, they have a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the bum at a later date.

    Relic

    March 17, 2014 at 11:57 am

  14. thats what i done at my wp induction silly cow went nuts saying i was braking the law by not signing them so said ring the police then.

    and that was the end of my wp 🙂

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    • What happened when the police arrived, Ted? Did you get charged, arrested, how long did you get in the slammer?

      Sorbet Blue

      March 18, 2014 at 6:51 pm

      • they never phoned them as there is no law that states i have to sign anything that the wp give me to sign.

        i called there bluff so say never went after that and got sanctioned 3-4 times for not going and won them all as i have no signed contract with the provider 😉

        super ted

        March 19, 2014 at 12:38 am

  15. House of Lords.

    Tuesday, 11 March 2014.

    3.01 pm.

    Employment: Universal Jobmatch.

    Lord Freud:

    We are now looking at 179 employers who may be in breach of our conditions and will suspend them if they prove in breach. I can assure noble Lords that no jobseeker will be sanctioned for not applying for a job that does not exist.

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201314/ldhansrd/text/140311-0001.htm#st_54

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 17, 2014 at 1:28 pm

    • We are now looking at 179 employers

      I wonder if they know the difference between an employer and a throw away email address or throw away domain name.

      Another Fine Mess

      March 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm

  16. Just checked the Interserve and Ingeus websites – still no mention about the new 6 month CWP supposed to be starting in April.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 17, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    • Maybe they are waiting for the budget 1st

      Philip B

      March 17, 2014 at 3:14 pm

    • I just found this on Seetec’s website:

      “Seetec has submitted its tender responses for the Community Work Placements (CWP) contract which is being procured by the Department for Work and Pensions. Seetec is currently awaiting the results of this contract.

      The Community Work Placements service will deliver a wide range of meaningful and supervised placements, integrated with between 4 and 10 hours of job search per week, to Work Programme completers (JSA and Universal Credit (full conditionality) claimants) who have failed to find sustainable employment through Work Programme provision and are referred to CWP by Jobcentre Plus. The programme is expected to run from 28 April 2014 until 27th October 2016 with final referrals from JCP 31 March 2016.”

      I have an interview with my PWPS adviser on Friday, 28 March. I’ll be asking her, albeit politely, about this.

      Relic

      March 17, 2014 at 5:13 pm

      • After an extensive search of the internet this afternoon It seems some private providers are running the 6 months CWP contracts and some aren’t.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        March 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm

      • OWK
        If the private providers couldn’t find a handfull of ‘jobs’ for their victims while their victims had a £12,000 price on their heads, then they’re not going to be able to find 1 million work places. It’s failed before it’s started.

        Another Fine Mess

        March 17, 2014 at 11:09 pm

  17. Petition to Department For Work and Pensions.

    Take Down Universal Jobmatch immediately.

    https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-work-and-pensions-take-down-universal-jobmatch-immediately

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 17, 2014 at 3:53 pm

  18. i know sainsburrys was getting 2200 per person that was 18-24 for the 6 months they was there as i got the letter sent to the manager.from the main office.

    so not only will you be working for ur benefit the gov will be giving these comps thousands of pounds for it to boot.

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 7:24 pm

  19. Wonder how those jobcentre security goons would fare against this dude… 🙂

    A man who throttled a policeman and threw another officer through a door has been jailed for five years.

    Ian McGaw, 26, from Galston, went berserk as they tried to arrest him for throwing a firework into a play park in the East Ayrshire town.

    Kilmarnock Sheriff Court heard how he hurled five PCs around “like rag dolls” after being sprayed with CS gas and was so powerful he buckled his handcuffs.

    Dean Stevenson, 19, who also attacked police, was jailed for two years.

    McGaw admitted culpable and reckless conduct by throwing a firework, punching and kicking two officers, assaulting PC Robert McMeeking to the danger of his life and resisting arrest.

    Stevenson, who is also from Galston, admitted punching a female officer on the head and assaulting PC McMeeking to the danger of his life.

    The court heard how police went to a house in Galston, in October last year, after fireworks had been thrown in a local play park.

    As officers confronted a group of males inside, McGaw showed signs of building aggression and two officers attempted to handcuff him.
    Officer choked

    McGaw managed to pick up a police sergeant and throw him through a closed door into the next room.

    Stephanie MacDonald, prosecuting, said: “The sergeant got up and saw five officers being treated, as he described it, like rag dolls.”

    McGaw dropped to his knees after being sprayed twice with CS gas, while Stevenson punched an officer in the face.

    Ms MacDonald added: “McGaw got back on his feet and lunged towards PC Robert McMeeking, grabbed him by the throat with both hands and squeezed his windpipe with both thumbs.

    “He was held against a wall and lifted off his feet. The officer estimated he was not breathing for 20-30 seconds and described losing the feeling in his arms and legs.”

    PC McMeeking passed out and was freed by a colleague, but McGaw spat on him while being restrained.

    PC McMeeking was then kicked on the head by Stevenson, while the latter was being handcuffed.

    Ms MacDonald said the pair were put in a van and taken to Kilmarnock police office, where McGaw’s cuffs were removed and “found to be buckled and unserviceable due to the struggle”.

    ‘Terrible attack’

    The court was told that PC McMeeking had since suffered loss of vision which had been linked to post-traumatic stress disorder.

    Sheriff Alistair Watson said the “terrible and sustained attack on police officers” was so serious he had considered sending it to the High Court for sentencing.

    He told McGaw: “You are a man with a history of violence and quite obvious size and strength which you used to press home this attack on the officers, and in particular PC McMeeking.

    “The effects on him will be long-lasting, that’s obvious to all. The attack was life-threatening and you show no remorse for what you have done.”

    Sheriff Watson said the sentence should reflect McGaw’s “significant risk to the public” and ordered that he be supervised for two years after his release.

    He told Stevenson his part in the attack had caused PC McMeeking to lose consciousness, although he had shown remorse and written a letter to the court.

    The incident was the second time McGaw had been jailed over a violent confrontation with police.

    In 2006, when he was 18, he and co-accused Christopher Quigley, 19, were jailed for a total of seven years after barricading themselves in their burning house and attacking riot police.

    Dude beats the shit out of da cops

    T Bickle

    March 17, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    • I am asking to leave the jobcentre, Mr McGaw… I am not going to ask you again…

      G$S Security Goon

      March 17, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      • What’s The Difference Between A Yeti And A G4S Security Guard. You Can Pet A Yeti

        Tardis Teddy

        March 18, 2014 at 11:20 am

    • A man who throttled a jobcentre adviser and threw a G4S security guard through a door has been sanctioned for 3 years.

      Andrew Coates, 60, from Ipswich, went berserk as they tried to sanction him for failing to ‘actively seek work’.

      Labour Market Decision Making and Appeals heard how he hurled five jobcentre advisers around “like rag dolls” after he was told that the hadn’t done all he could have done to seek work and he was so powerful he tore up his job search diary.

      Coates managed to pick up an adviser and throw him through a closed door into the IAD (Internet Access Device) room.

      The Decision Maker said the “terrible and sustained attack on job centre staff” was so serious he had considered imposing a 3 month banning order from the jobcentre.

      The incident was the second time Coates had been sanctioned for failing to ‘actively seek work’.

      In 2013 Coates was sanctioned for 3 years for failing to take part in Mandatory Work Activity.

      Touchstone

      March 17, 2014 at 9:10 pm

  20. i have had one adviser by the scruff of the next and dragged him over his table and threw him across the floor n g4s staff did jack shit to stop me. only had 1 woman there for g4s lol

    got banned from the jcp tho but this was years ago now prob get a visit from plod these days.

    think im still banned from that office to this day

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    • Good for you, super ted.

      Relic

      March 18, 2014 at 9:36 am

  21. Another Fine Mess :
    OWK
    If the private providers couldn’t find a handfull of ‘jobs’ for their victims while their victims had a £12,000 price on their heads, then they’re not going to be able to find 1 million work
    places. It’s failed before it’s started.

    they will be paying for the placements that they find and prob take a fee off the top for them to keep.

    just refuse to sign anything at the placement they send you to as there is no law they can state that you have to do so as its a contract with them not the wp or jcp.

    was the same when i was sent on the work force refused to sign the contract so sent home

    super ted

    March 17, 2014 at 11:23 pm

    • Like you, I will not sign a damn thing. I didn’t sign anything when I was on the WP. Action Plans, Job Logs – nothing.

      Relic

      March 18, 2014 at 9:44 am

  22. Universal Jobmatch website may be scrapped.

    Channel 4 News: 17 March 2014.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 18, 2014 at 9:36 am

    • Any News On When We Can Expect An Official Announcement. Are There Plans To Replace It With Something Else ? Any News From Anybody Including Channel 4 Will Be Welcome

      Philip B

      March 18, 2014 at 10:45 am

  23. Should Have Added When Using UJM A Couple Of Days Ago, I Made A Typo With The 1st Character Of The Password. IT IS NOT CASE SENSITIVE BY ANYMEANS

    Philip B

    March 18, 2014 at 10:48 am

    • You’re right! I’ve been wasting my time and fingers by using both upper and lower case.

      Another Fine Mess

      March 18, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      • Wonder if the dwp know or monster to that matter. I thought it was ”supposed” (to be) a secure site. I did email dwp at universal.jobmatchgg@dwp.gsi.gov.uk Their home pages give this address if there are anyproblems. They are still to get back to me.

        Philip B

        March 18, 2014 at 12:22 pm

      • They’ve probably done it that way so that it’s slightly easier for the less IT savvy users to remember the pw, but I think the gov. gateway pw should be case sensitive for obvious reasons.

        universal.jobmatchgg@ are probably scratching their heads over what ‘case sensitive’ means.

        Another Fine Mess

        March 18, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      • Probably Asking Atos About Allergies ;0)

        Philip James Brown

        March 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm

      • For legal reasons we’re not allowed to comment on sensitive cases.

        Another Fine Mess

        March 18, 2014 at 1:05 pm

  24. Something survived, That sounds horendous especially the Mulberry tree! these trees are usually well established and I also harvest the one in our library gardens along with other types of fruit for free food in the summer and the way people are treated is appalling.

    How wonderful it would be to get rid of The Universal Jobmatch I’ve just signed the petition and asked several of my freinds to do so too.

    I wish someone would get rid of IDS The man is evil

    Carol Joyce

    March 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm

  25. Philip B:

    Send it as a Freedom of Information request (they have to respond by law within 20 days)

    e-mail: freedom-of-information-request@dwp.gsi.gov.uk

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    • Thanks Obi, I’ll wait and see if I get a reply in the next week or so, then I will do so.

      Philip B

      March 18, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    • I am waiting for further information from DWP. Will let you know what happens

      Philip B

      March 19, 2014 at 10:55 am

  26. Department for Work and Pensions:

    Community Work Placements.

    Information Pack for Delivery Partners. (Private Providers)

    Publication Date: 04 November 2013 to 04 December 2013.

    v1.0 October 2013.

    (This includes all the Private Providers delivering the Community Work Placements and the area’s the individual Private Providers will cover)

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/community-work-placements-info-pack.pdf

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 18, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    • Mean’t to say the Private Providers that cover all the area’s have to bid for the contracts, the lowest bidders will win.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      March 18, 2014 at 1:26 pm

  27. Politicians ‘rap’ about getting the deficit down, ahead of tommorrow’s Budget.

    Live coverage from 6am on March 19 on Sky News.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 18, 2014 at 5:24 pm

  28. ‘£50,000 FREEBIE’ Perk for MP’s.

    MPs miss Budget while on £50,000 tax-payer funded trip to Argentina.

    The MPs on the Commons Welsh Affairs committee are flying business class to Patagonia mark the 150th anniversary of the first Welsh-language colony in South America.

    The cost of the six-day visit is coming from a fund used for select committee travel.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/wales/10705231/MPs-miss-Budget-while-on-50000-tax-payer-funded-trip-to-Argentina.html

    Yet Jobseekers are stuck with draconian measures for £71.70p a week.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 19, 2014 at 10:36 am

  29. Got a heads up from an economist that the drop in unemployment is in the most part all down to unemployed people taking up the practice of self employment.

    Whats the bet that George Osborne makes no mention of that during his speech ?

    gaia

    March 19, 2014 at 11:11 am

    • YEH Betterware And Kleaneze (ALLEGEDLY)

      Philip B

      March 19, 2014 at 11:13 am

    • I’ll tell you why Gaia, the work programme adivsers are really pushing people to become self employed, they tried that one with me and my answer was: ‘it begins in F and ends in F’.

      Glad I finished my 2 year stint last year.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      March 19, 2014 at 11:53 am

      • Yes, Working Links are always pushing private hire taxi-ing!

        Working Links are SCUM!!

        March 19, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      • Oh yes, I witnessed it to when I was on it before getting work through my own steam be it only temp and yes I made sure they couldn’t claim a fee for it as it was a CV that was sent out pre WP and only surfaced as the company was to tight to advertise.

        gaia

        March 20, 2014 at 9:07 am

    • UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES

      And don’t forget to mention Zero Hours contracts and SANCTIONS, which along with so-called self-employment, are being used to “massage the unemployment figures out of all connection with reality”:

      http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/09/reading-between-unemployment-lines

      Tobanem

      March 19, 2014 at 12:26 pm

      • Very true, yet no one does anything about keeping these lines as clear as possible.

        This inorder to be deemed unemployed you have to be in receipt of unemployment benefit criteria desperately needs to be changed so students/grads and those sanctioned aren’t included as employed as lets face it their most certainly not.

        Don’t know why I said lets face it as its really whos playing government at the time is really the one that needs to face it.

        Gladly though as long as people are aware of this fact at least they can disseminate the figures so as to get a true picture that this government seem hell bent to cover up.

        Global crash or not, this is the worst government ever and it has nothing to do with austerity and what makes this worse is that neither is labour, ukip up for the task.

        gaia

        March 20, 2014 at 9:04 am

  30. Wonder how many are forced to claim employment support allowance because of the stress of the of being lied to and intimidated in jobcentres. this policy is going to affect the disabled who suffer stress because of existing conditions being pushed over the edge.as well as others’ given ridiculous obstacles.

    The jobcentre are clearly hoping people wont appeal,Its hard to see it getting that far because of their tactics.more likely overturned before.

    ken

    March 19, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    • “Five Ways To Spot A Fake Job Advert”

      They seem to have removed the whole page after I left a comment, perhaps it was something I said. lol

      Another Fine Mess

      March 20, 2014 at 3:58 pm

      • Can’t even open that one with the Google Doc’s Viewer.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        March 20, 2014 at 4:12 pm

  31. If any is interested the BBC want to here from unemployed people.

    haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk

    Make sure to put ‘unemployment’ in the subject heading and include your contact details.

    gaia

    March 20, 2014 at 9:09 am

    • See Previous Posts. Will They Be Impartial The BBC Are SUPPOSED To Be Imaprtial.

      Lord Reith

      March 22, 2014 at 8:59 am

  32. AUSTERITY IS NOT WORKING

    Even the chairman of the OBR admits “government spending cuts act as a ‘drag’ on growth”:

    http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/forget-the-talking-heads-the-obr-confirms-the-real-truth-about-the-recovery/

    Tobanem

    March 20, 2014 at 10:05 am

  33. According to the ONS, nearly four people are chasing every job today. Compared to nearly six people, two years ago. I thought the ONS were supposed to be impartial. Clearly not.

    jj joop

    March 20, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    • Like The BBC The Ons Is Supposed To Be Impartial {!} Like The Ons The BBC Is Supposed To Be Impartial {!} Don’t Forget:- Both Parties Require Some Sort Of {Government} Funding

      New Pound Coin

      March 20, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    • Do remember jj joop that the figure given out is just an average and so is rather worthless.

      What I mean is, is that the area, the amount of unemployed people in that area and within 90 min travel, the skill level, the amount and method the vacancy is advertised at all have a massive baring on the final result if it was to be done correctly.

      When ONS and any other staticians do these figures they only pole so many people and often as is the case with this government those poled generally reside in the south where the UK is prospering the most.

      Its entirely possible on any given day that in the case of one job alone that the ratio is 5000 to 1 or worse.

      Put it this way, would employers quote phrases such as “dew to high levels of application we may not be able to reply to all applicants” and the likes we get generically from employers indicate a 4 to 1 ratio or a larger one ?

      gaia

      March 21, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      • Should have said I quote “When ONS and any other staticians do these figures they only pole so many people or so much data and often as is the case with this government those poled or figures given generally reside in the south where the UK is prospering the most”.

        All this 4 to 1 is, is being proportionate towards the figures used and in no way representative of the truth as had all the jobs been only down south, the figure would still be the same yet as we know a person in say Manchester wont be applying dew to distance and cost an thus make this ratio rather redundant and inaccurate.

        gaia

        March 21, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    • From memory, they used to count how many unemployed there were per entry-level vacancy in each area. The figures varied from around 2 to 30.
      In the north east the figure rose to 50 and then to 64 unemployed per entry-level vacancy, so to fix the problem they stopped collecting, or at least publishing these figures about a year ago.

      Another Fine Mess

      March 22, 2014 at 2:18 pm

  34. “In the matter of the investigation into the employment of Betsy Duncan Smith”

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmstnprv/476/476we17.htm

    Annos

    March 20, 2014 at 11:10 pm

  35. Obi Wan Kenobi :
    Damn!

    What did you expect would happen, did happen!!!. They can get away with MURDER, ask Blair.

    Annos

    March 21, 2014 at 7:34 pm

  36. The last time I heard, the Work Programme was responsible for sanctioning twice as many people compared to the number it got back to work.

    Now for every person the Work Programme gets back to work, another FIVE times as many are sanctioned!

    And still the Government boasts about the success of the doomed Work Programme.

    http://www.pcs.org.uk/en/news_and_events/news_centre/index.cfm/five-times-more-sanctions-than-jobs-on-government-s-work-programme

    Tobanem

    March 22, 2014 at 9:11 am

  37. Annos

    March 22, 2014 at 10:58 am

    • Interesting video.

      Interesting quote: “We’ve been saved from the consequences of one burst [financial] bubble, by inflating a hundred new ones all over the world”.

      Tick, tick, tick…

      Tobanem

      March 22, 2014 at 2:16 pm

      • Another intersting quote(about the next global crisis): “The Governments could save the banks, but who can save the Governments”?

        Tobanem

        March 22, 2014 at 2:32 pm

    • Its amazing how this is just one of many documentaries highlighting a very real threat yet the public working or not remain inert to its very clear message.

      With low tax collection, cuts to the wealthiest tax, little export, our debt can really only go one way. Even now the UK is barely covering the public debts interest repayments let alone debt, fudging the stats, already had its rating downgraded (this means interest repayments are higher) and on record (this government) borrowed more money than Tony Blair and Gordon Brown combined despite making extensive austerity cuts with more to come.

      Capitalism and free markets only work one way and while allowed to continue will insure yet another collapse to come as the greed of the rich outweighs the need of the public it makes poor.
      UK public debt

      http://www.debtbombshell.com/

      US public debt

      http://www.usdebtclock.org/

      Size portionally, neither country can ever pay the debt back without decades of depression, asset seizure and high taxes and eventually very high unemployment.

      Want to see who owes who, just click on the country you want (interactive page)

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15748696

      UKs largest portion of its debt is dew mostly to the banking industry borrowing heavy overseas.

      gaia

      March 23, 2014 at 9:44 am

  38. “The largest food bank in Scotland, which exists to help feed the poverty stricken, has run out of food.”

    http://digitaljournal.com/life/food/food-bank-feeding-the-poor-in-scotland-runs-out-of-food/article/372763#ixzz2utgJLQg8

    Annos

    March 22, 2014 at 10:27 pm

  39. Put these guy’s in front of Cameron and IDS – I think you would see a lot of even more denial from the guy’s ‘who are always right’ and everyone in the country is wrong. What a set of Dumbasses. Here’s the Human League to sort them out.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 22, 2014 at 10:42 pm

  40. What is it about UK government and sanctions ?

    By freezing Russia as hague more so than most bang on about will see the UK heading for a financial fall what with Russia buying our debt, supplying a large wealth of fuel for power generation, owning many UK businesses and paying a million pounds a visa.

    Is this just our tories attempting to still Russian assets so as to try to go some way to heal our never ending public debt ?

    Whats the bets if sanctions do increase, we will all see another push by this government to frack (hydraulic fracking) the crap out of the UK without any care to the pending fallout to our water aquifers (UKs only fresh water supplies).

    gaia

    March 23, 2014 at 10:03 am

  41. Someone said the other day “what if the north and midlands of the UK joined Scotland in splitting away from the rest of the UK what with them not benefiting from any gains our tories maintain have happened.

    Where would that leave the remaining UK in the coming future, how would it effect UK governments position globally?

    Can you imagine Cameron’s and his parties face, the first government party ever to be responsible for the splitting up of the UK.

    gaia

    March 23, 2014 at 10:11 am

    • Would London And The South-East Become ”A CITY STATE”

      True Brit

      March 23, 2014 at 10:37 am

  42. Hidden cost of Osbornes pension reform

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26663313

    gaia

    March 23, 2014 at 10:15 am

  43. Sally Ann pulls out of CWP.

    http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=3370

    jj joop

    March 24, 2014 at 8:46 am

  44. 1,500 people have applied for just 40 jobs at at Aldi’s Bridgnorth store in the Midlands. Locals thought it looked more like auditions for the X Factor, not a job for Aldi. One woman said she queued for three hours to apply for a job that paid £7 an hour for a minimum of 20 hours a week.

    However, according to the ONS, only about 4 people apply for every vacancy. Hmm…

    jj joop

    March 24, 2014 at 10:56 am

    • Cant say im surprized jj joop what with the 4 to 1 average not being indicative in any shape or form.

      This 4 to 1 average is simply bull spread to the public so as to create smoke and mirrors of a working front that doesn’t actually nor ever did exist so as to keep the working publics support for welfare reform.

      Pound for pound this government like labour are wasting welfare money by giving it to large privateers rather than those who need it most. In the time wasted, the money spent, the government could have put all claimants on a proper college course yet even their they decided to turn it into a loan/debt (24+ advanced learners loan) and still to this date have claimants signing agreements to give up any course they just took a loan/debt out on if offered employment afterwards. If you disagree, you get SANCTIONED.

      gaia

      March 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm

  45. jj joop

    March 24, 2014 at 11:26 am

    • It didn’t get mentioned in the replying posts to the above link kindly supplied by jj joop but I strongly suggest claimants keep records of their work search going back at least 6 months from now on.

      gaia

      March 25, 2014 at 1:31 pm

  46. 6 month Community Work Placements.

    Big blow to the DWP’s latest plans for mass workfare.

    In an important success even before the workfare week of action starts on 29th March, the Salvation Army have said they will play no part in the upcoming Community Work Placement scheme.

    A recent Freedom of Information request revealed that the provider guidance for the scheme is not yet ready, suggesting its April start date is somewhat optimistic.

    http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=3370

    Salvation Army Statement.

    “However, although we have seen first-hand the positive benefits people gain from being in work, volunteering or taking part in a work experience placement, we will not be participating in a new government programme called Community Work Placements or CWP which will start at the beginning of April this year. CWP is aimed at benefit claimants who did not find sustained employment during their time on the Work Programme”.

    “We feel that a 26-week work experience placement is too long and would not be beneficial. If someone has not found employment within two years, the lack of work experience is clearly not their only barrier to employment. Our concern is that the underlying issues need to be dealt with holistically and work experience is a part of the support needed. As such, we will not be taking part in the Community Work Placement programme”.

    http://news.salvationarmy.org.uk/update-back-work-schemes

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 24, 2014 at 12:38 pm

  47. ‘The UN-Workable Programme’

    Just 48,000 people have found long-term jobs under the government’s flagship work programme during its near three-year life, official figures have revealed.

    The statistic calls into question the efficacy of a system the government has insisted would help millions back into work.

    The department’s data showed that the maximum available sustainment payment has been made nearly 48,000 times since the work programme was launched in June 2011. That represents only 3.2% of the 1.5 million people the DWP said have been referred to the work programme in total.

    “Ministers have very serious questions to answer about this scheme, not least why there have been five times more sanctions applied than jobs found for people,” said the general secretary of the Public and Commercial Services union, Mark Serwotka.

    He added: “The privatised work programme has been an unmitigated failure and has actually hampered the chances of people finding work, not helped.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/mar/21/work-programme-creates-48000-long-term-jobs-three-years

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 24, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    • Notice how despite damning evidence, the government still get the last word right at the end without any by or leave as to which figures represent the actual truth or how they drastically differ?

      The sad thing to all this is that this wont stop this government proceeding with other worthless schemes as its always, lets let it run for a while and then judge.

      gaia

      March 25, 2014 at 1:39 pm

  48. 28 April 2014 benefit changes:

    Lone Parent Conditionality, Workfare, Jobsearch, Sanctions & more.

    http://refuted.org.uk/2014/03/22/aprilchanges/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    March 24, 2014 at 2:35 pm

  49. Brewed to have the same legendary feel of the original fleshlight, and it is making your marriage suffer, then you need some help. ” One drink a day isn’t a good idea, but it’s not going to harm your child if you have an occasional alcoholic drink.
    Breann http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com

    Breann

    April 4, 2014 at 9:18 am


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