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More Back-to-Work Failures.

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The Daily Mirror has just reported.

A flagship back-to-work scheme for troubled families has been dismissed as a “catastrophe” after a Government watchdog savaged its failings.

Bungling ministers spent almost £8million trying to find 88,000 people from these families a job – but managed to get just 720 off the dole.

This left taxpayers with a £10,000 bill for each person helped into work on Iain Duncan Smith’s scheme.

The Work and Pensions Secretary had set a target of getting 19,832 on the scheme into work.

But a damning National Audit Office report found the “families with multiple problems” programme was missing this target by 96%.

Under the scheme the Government pays private companies to get those from troubled families off benefits.

But Mark Serwotka, the general secretary of Whitehall’s Public and Commercial Services union, said the poor results also showed that giving work to private firms was “fantastically misguided”.

He said: “It’s difficult to see the DWP programme as anything other than a catastrophe for the vulnerable families who deserve our help but are being let down.

“First with the work programme and now this, private companies are proving themselves incapable of providing the kind of complex, dedicated support necessary, despite the hundreds of millions of pounds of public money being funnelled their way.”

Public Finance adds,

By Tom Forrest | 3 December 2013

Two government departments did not work effectively together when introducing overlapping programmes to support troubled families, according to a report published today by the National Audit Office.


Auditors said there had been ‘poor co-ordination’ between programmes run by the Department for Communities & Local Government and the Department for Work & Pensions. As a result, there were doubts over whether their ambitious targets could be achieved.

The DCLG’s Troubled Families programme is attempting to turn round the lives of 120,000 families, while the DWP’s Families with Multiple Problems scheme aims to find employment for 22% of participants.


But the NAO report said that the DWP programme had only achieved 720 employment outcomes, just 4% of its target. Meanwhile, the number of families attached to the DCLG scheme by local authorities is 13% below auditors’ assessment of what would be reasonable.


‘These innovative and ambitious programmes are beginning to provide some benefits, but elements of both are underperforming,’ said Amyas Morse, NAO head.


Written by Andrew Coates

December 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm

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  1. I must say I cant help but smile at this as it was so obvious from the start when you consider JCPs very own NEW DEAL PROJECT back in the day.

    No, rather than face the issue of addressing those at the tops of businesses human behaviour towards employment selection and practices both governments now and in the past opted for the scapegoat approach and even though at the time labour never said what the tories say to today about unemployed people their continual backing of practices such as tougher sanctions to name but one says it all.

    Its all good and well to create jobs but this does very little when the very employers opt to select those already in work or less than six months unemployed over those unemployed for a longer period. Now I know the tory intent be it believable or not towards this work for benefit is to address gaps in ones employment record but I fear it will come to nothing if they don’t address employers behaviour. Ive been volunteering for ages whether Im working or not and have my own project which has been running for years yet everytime I thought it would count towards ones record I have found employers disregard it and hear quotes such as that’s not a real job despite doing the exact same thing as someone being paid. Its such a strong reaction that I find even the public saying the same self thing when they compare it to their own paid positions.

    To make matters worse what with the press interest now employers see only a candidate they perceive as being forced into it and thus yet again disregard it as true intent towards ones endeavours to find and maintain employment. The route cause of course is governments insistence to sanction you if you don’t advertising an imagine of someone who doesn’t want to work so has to be forced to. I don’t doubt that their are those who don’t but I believe whole heartily that most do and would even go as far as say its probably less that 1% that don’t.

    People aren’t fools, we know money replaced hunting daily so we know the desire to earn is paramount and that’s why any of us be they employed or not want to work and yet this obvious point is overlooked by both governments todate.

    Now so far I have landed the blame in 2 areas and this is a little unfair as a major contributor to this is of course capitalism itself which if any know how it works knows that basically for every winner their must be a loser if one is to elevate themselves to aspire to its practice. This means their has to be poor people and third world countries or the model will fail. This of course goes hand in hand also with how money works in the first place.

    The moral of course is one can only hope to save themselves but in doing so must cost another theirs.


    December 3, 2013 at 1:15 pm

  2. Just Seen The News More Arrests At A4E


    December 3, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    • Four more people have been charged over allegations of fraud at welfare-to-work company Action 4 Employment (A4E).

      ‘Forged documents’

      The new charges relate to allegations against A4E contract manager Ines Cano-Uribe, quality co-ordinator Sarah Hawkins, operations manager Serge Wyett, team leader Matthew Hannigan Train and recruiter Hayley Wilson.

      They are accused of having “conspired to forge documentation in relation to services provided by A4e, with the intention of convincing Department for Work and Pensions auditors that the documentation and claims for payment were genuine”, the Crown Prosecution Service said.


      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm

  3. A little off topic but may I call upon fellow posters here who may not be already a part of this to consider signing this petition



    December 3, 2013 at 1:24 pm

  4. It’s the Civil Service. They hate me, they take delight in frustrating my brilliant schemes. If it wasn’t for the Civil Service, everyone would see what a genius I am, everybody would be happy and would love me. I am misunderstood, and it is all the fault of the Civil Service.

    Iain Duncan Smith

    December 3, 2013 at 2:13 pm

    • Never mind IDS, you can always cuddle up with that bitch Esther McVey!

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      December 3, 2013 at 2:25 pm

      • I’d sooner cuddle up with a bloody rattlesnake.

        jj joop

        December 3, 2013 at 6:45 pm

      • rattlesnakes are CUTE. And useful to the planet.

        something survived...

        December 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      • beware the snake that does not rattle or dog that not bark


        December 5, 2013 at 9:29 am


    Austerity measures have not been enough to cure the country’s economic ills, so the end of the Welfare State will be announced this Thursday in the Chancellor’s Autumn Statement:



    December 3, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    • “But most housing benefit – which currently costs more than £20 billion a year – will be included.” in the cuts.


      How the hell are people going to afford the rent if their housing benefit is cut?

      Live in cardboard city?

      I’m off on another ‘course’ tomorrow: they don’t seem to suffer cuts.

      Andrew Coates

      December 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

      • Is Cutting benefits where they get the cash to run these nonsensical courses from ?

        Mr Puzzled

        December 4, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    • If the Tories are concerned about Housing Benefit what they could do is introduce rent controls – but they won’t do that. Similarly, if the Tories are concerned about rising energy costs what they could do is restore Ofgem’s power to control prices, a power which it had until 2002 – but they won’t do that. What Britain can no longer afford is people like Osborne, individuals whose primary (sole?) concern is to further enrich themselves and their corporate friends.


      December 4, 2013 at 11:44 am

  6. Jobcentre solidarity in Cardiff


    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm

  7. Just remembered this from a gov.uk press release on the 3rd of June 2013.

    Government announces details of post Work Programme support.

    The intensive support will last for 6 months, and will be used for all Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants returning from the Work Programme who need more intensive support.


    So once you have finished the Work Programme, then gone back to the Jobcentre and have been with your ‘Hit Squad Adviser’ for 6 months (which some people will be almost there), there is nothing else after that, – Your adviser has to put you back on normal fortnightly signings.

    I urge everyone coming to the end of their 6 months with your ‘Hit Squad Advisers’ to follow the above link and print it out – before the DWP makes it disappear.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    December 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    • Obi. What about the CWPs in April? Will us PWPS lot be put on to that, once our 6 months is up?

      jj joop

      December 3, 2013 at 6:42 pm

      • Yes the CWP in April is still in effect, I’m talking about the people who are almost at the end of their 6 month post work programme support with the JCP now.

        I finish mine in early January, some will be finishing it as of December 10th as those will have finished the work programme from 10th June – that will be 6 months, then nothing till April 2014.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    • To be honest Obi I haven’t noticed any difference between this post effort and their normal service bar weekly attendance, their as lying and rude as they always are.

      I haven’t really looked at any data regarding this post project but I would suspect that it was not that different to the outcome produced from the trailblazer trial but who knows. Personally I had hoped it would change my fortunes but sadly all I have gained from it so far is that

      1: Mostly all advisors lie or are unaware of their own operation guides and rules.
      2: Most advisors don’t act in a fair and polite manner unless you count treating all claimants like something they trod in, not to mention talking about claimants behind their back.
      3: Despite the data protection act most advisors breach it in between clients by conversing with one another naming claimants they slayed that day as well as passing unjustified comments about them along with unproved assumptions.
      4: Advisors seem to have mistaken what civil servant implies.
      5: They seldom ever apologise and even when they do its not with true intent.
      6: Lastly like IDS refuse to except their efforts simply don’t work.

      Oh I would like to mention that one advisor I had was truly nice and fair and was totally aware of the real picture but sadly disappeared two weeks ago and I haven’t seen them since. I hope they are taking holiday as everytime I form a bond they seem to disappear which is quite sad as more of this class of person is exactly whats needed throughout DWP.
      Where ever you are I wish to state I truly appreciate your efforts both in assistance and your ability to make me feel better about surviving through these tough times, your a credit to your profession and a shinning example that not all humans are callus and self serving.

      Mines up in the beginning part of January and although your all hate me for saying it I actually would prefer to keep attending on a weekly basis if they’ll let me which will probably mean they wont as I never get to keep what I like and is useful. This said I am only 15 min away so totally understand the trouble this has caused others who aren’t as fortunate or as able bodied so I second Obi’s statement if that’s what you want or need.


      December 3, 2013 at 6:57 pm

      • Gaia:

        I’ve had to do 2 MWA’s thanks to my ‘Hit Squad Adviser’ in the past 6 months, I will be glad when it’s back to fortnightly signing.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 3, 2013 at 7:27 pm

      • I have to wonder if despite this 6 months thing, if they will relent as I see them attacking normal claimants not on post in the same way at my office bar the weekly signing.


        December 4, 2013 at 10:41 am

      • Obi. 2 MWA In 6 month!!! They got you there. You have been done mate. You only have to do 1 in a year.


        December 4, 2013 at 12:02 pm

      • Ed:

        Did one 4 week MWA and one 3 week Work Skills course.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        December 4, 2013 at 12:13 pm

  8. Claimants will be given an end-of-term report from their Work Programme

    i not got 1 of them wp parked me for 2 years o dear jcp staff not got a clue what to do with me now post wp and got a warning letter for being a bad bear and shouting at them 🙂

    super ted

    December 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    • And If You Don’t Get A B+ In Report What Then


      December 4, 2013 at 9:24 am

    • I didnt get one either,its a complete waste of time.the jobcentre whipped my cv moaned about it and never seen or heard about it again.the only thing they have done done is cause distress and harassment.

      As for affording the welfare state,due to the way this system the reliance on it is even more needed.inflating an economy with unaffordable credit,perilous employment conditions and a cavalier attitude extreme right wing government is a dangerous cocktail.


      December 4, 2013 at 10:34 am

      • Agreed. Npower cutting 1400 jobs across the UK. And now news that Hewlett-Packard is planning to cut 1100 jobs at the start of 2014 from three UK sites.

        Osborne wants tax cuts for rich Tory supporters in the business world.


        December 4, 2013 at 1:39 pm

  9. Obi Wan Kenobi :
    I’ve had to do 2 MWA’s thanks to my ‘Hit Squad Adviser’ in the past 6 months, I will be glad when it’s back to fortnightly signing.

    Obi. Sounds like your adviser has really got it in for you.

    jj joop

    December 4, 2013 at 12:09 pm

  10. Ed :
    I would put in a complaint for maladministration. This will help. You will have to look through for the right letter.
    Not sure if you will be exempt from MWA in April though, as it will be under the new claimant commitment if it runs on time and i doubt that.

    Thanks Ed. This gold and will come in useful.

    jj joop

    December 4, 2013 at 12:45 pm

  11. “The YMCA are one of the greatest apologists for workfare and can’t even properly advise young people of their benefit sanctions rights.”



    December 4, 2013 at 4:10 pm

  12. I have already signed the petition you mentioned gaia

    Carol Joyce

    December 4, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    • I thank you Carol Joyce and all those that signed it. I’ve been an avid supporter of change.org for a while now and often receive emails from them advertising various petitions. I posted this one here as I felt its something that effects us all.

      One can only hope like IDS getting dragged before the select committee that this petition will come to the forefront.



      December 5, 2013 at 10:06 am

    • This reminds me of fracking in the USA, where fuel companies deny contamination of aquifers yet mysteriously anywhere modern hydraulic fracking is occurring the local residents report contamination and are unable to drink the water. To make matters worse the now government suppressed a report by its own environmental protection agency.


      December 5, 2013 at 11:16 am

  13. It appears like his math, IDSs beliefs are just as poor as its announced now that UC wont come on schedule.


    December 5, 2013 at 10:16 am

    • In a deal worth £45 million, David Cameron has arranged to sell pig spunk to the Chinese so that Iain Duncan Smith can have more tax revenue to spend on unusable Universal Credit software.

      What a bunch of arseholes.


      December 5, 2013 at 12:50 pm

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