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Tips for Those Going on Community Work Placements

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These People Didn’t Follow Our Helpful Advice.

Handy-Tips for those who, from April next year, will be doing six months unpaid labour on Community Work Placements.

  • Always be well-turned out and polite. Your owners should be addressed as Sir or Madam. A brief bow or curtsey will not go amiss.
  • Do not stay in your “comfort zone”. No task is too difficult for those on Community Work Placements. If asked to crawl, reply, “How low?”
  • Community Work Placements are there to develop valuable interpersonal skills. If told to go and fetch a Latte from Starbucks, run.
  • The scheme is an excellent way of helping those without work experience and motivation. Show your motivation! A happy smile never hurt anybody.
  • Every morning look in the bathroom mirror and say ten times, “I will do a good job today.”

Ian Duncan Smith ideas in the pipe-line.

  • You  will be forbidden to leave the owner’s property during the Placement, unless accompanied by a responsible person, or obtaining permission. If a claimant leaves the owner’s property without permission, “every Daily Mail  reader” is required to chastise such a scrounger.
  • Any claimant attempting to run away and leave the scheme will be tagged with an electronic  “collar” .
  • Any claimant who evades capture for 20 days or more is to be branded with the letter S (Scrounger)  on the right cheek, dressed in a bright red  ‘Benefit Cheat Onesie’  for the second offence; have a kidney removed (and sold to BUPA) if absent for thirty days for the third offence; and castrated for the fourth offence.
  • Claimant homes are to be searched every two weeks for weapons, alcohol, drugs,  or stolen goods. Punishment for violations escalate to include loss of housing benefit, council tax benefit, electricity and gas connections,  and for the fourth offence, death.
  • During the Placement, No Claimant shall be allowed to work for pay, or to plant corn, peas, tobacco, hemp, or rice; or to keep hogs, cattle, or horses; or to own or operate a boat, car, mountain bike, metal scooter; to watch flat screen television; or to wear clothes finer than ‘Scrounger cloth’
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Written by Andrew Coates

November 19, 2013 at 10:54 am

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  1. Andrew Coates raises an important point here. Remember to smile, even if you’re starving. If you don’t smile you will be sent back to the Jobcentre for gross misconduct and immediately sanctioned.

    JBS

    November 19, 2013 at 11:53 am

  2. How to learn to be happy and smile to be shown to everyone on Workfare schemes:

    Andrew Coates

    November 19, 2013 at 12:11 pm

  3. Your satirical comments will not seem so far fetched after reading the following article about the latest ludicrous suggestion to control anti-social behaviour:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509467/Gang-members-banned-wearing-hoodies-owning-pay-phones-new-crackdown.html

    Just imagine, someone been sent outside on a community work placement on a cold and frosty morning without a head covering, or anyone else doing 35 hours a week jobsearch without the use of a phone – the Jobcentre will not even be able to contact people quickly enough to arrange the latest sanctions interview!!

    Tobanem

    November 19, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    • OFF YER BIKE

      There’s even to be a ban on owning a bicycle!

      What about “on yer bike” then?

      Tobanem

      November 19, 2013 at 12:37 pm

      • FUTURE DIALOGUE AT MWA.
        ADVISOR;- JUMP
        VICTIM;- HOW HIGH
        ADVISOR;- DON’T ARGUE JUST JUMP
        VICTIM JUMPS FOLLOWED BY A CRASH OF VICTIM LANDING ON ADVISORS COMPUTER
        ADVISOR;- WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND LOOK WHAT YOU’VE DONE DID I TELL YOU YOU COULD COME DOWN.

        LOOSELY BASED ON MONTY PYTHON SPANISH INQUISITION [JOBCENTRE SKETCH]
        BUT THIS TIME NOT FUNNY

        NOT THE PYTHON SKETCH

        November 24, 2013 at 11:12 am

      • “it is a truth universally acknowledged that when..” two people meet they will perform the “Parrot sketch” . (with apologies to Jane Austen)

        Windmill1

        December 2, 2013 at 2:02 pm

      • Windmill, amongst us lefties, it’s the People’s Front of Judea, the Judean People’s Front, the Judean Popular People’s Front, the Campaign for a Free Galilee, and the Popular Front of Judea.

        Andrew Coates

        December 2, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    • Not really obviously about restricting communication, the bike is an absolute give away to this one. For ages now the police have been foiled at every turn what with the hood having better area coverage at a fraction of the man power. Todays gangs are a monument to a level of communication that the police have still yet to aspire to so rather than adapt, the biggest gang in town instead opts for an unfair and questionably legal advantage proving further how ineffectual todays policing currently is.

      Whats next, taser every suspect, armed or not as it reduces health and safety risks not to mention police sick days ?

      gaia

      November 19, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    • Coppers here, Coppers there.

      They will have to recruit a whole new section of security guards to police these new schemes.

      Andrew Coates

      November 20, 2013 at 1:26 pm

      • Will G4S-SERCO be allowed to apply ?. Will they transfer their yeti from the jobcentres over to the new schemes ?

        Mr Brown

        November 27, 2013 at 9:46 am

      • The ones G4S don’t want when the jobcentres close ?

        philip

        December 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm

  4. NORA. National Online Recruitment Awards.

    The Wooden NORA is a one-off special trophy for this year only. Whilst it is all too easy to produce a terrible recruitment website, especially when resources are tight, it is unforgivable when a website appears to go out of its way to make things difficult for jobseekers. By way of explanation, here are the reasons behind the Finalists for the Wooden NORA Award.

    Universal JobMatch: There are a multitude of reasons to condemn this mongrel of a recruitment website. Built by serious job board professionals, Monster, for a crazy budget of at least £15m, but specified by civil servants at the DWP, this website commits almost every online recruitment crime, and then some. The domain isn’t even Universal JobMatch!

    http://norauk.com/wooden-nora-finalists/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 19, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    • “Universal JobMatch: There are a multitude of reasons to condemn this mongrel of a recruitment website. Built by serious job board professionals, Monster, for a crazy budget of at least £15m, but specified by civil servants at the DWP, this website commits almost every online recruitment crime, and then some. The domain isn’t even Universal JobMatch!”

      Lets not be offensive to Professionals…. Monster has not established an reputation for being an amateurish outfit, with a slapshod attitude, and slovenly attitude towards Data Protection for nothing.

      Eowyn Rohan

      November 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm

  5. Stay positive! Keep this in mind when you wake up cold and hungry and you’ve got to travel 30+ miles to your Community Work Placement:

    JBS

    November 19, 2013 at 2:33 pm

    • Surely you mean, ‘Zippededoodah’?
      Or ‘Working in a Coal Mine’?
      Or ‘Row Row Row Your Boat’?
      Or ‘Day-Oh (Come Mr Tallyman Tally My Banana)’?
      Or ‘Jump down turn around pick a bale of cotton…’?

      Or theme from ‘Chorus Of the Hebrew Slaves’?

      something survived...

      November 19, 2013 at 7:35 pm

  6. Community Work Placement projects are just one measure, wait until people get a load of UC, the place where benefits arent the ONLY thing under one roof. Yes you guessed it, in the interests of being FAIR, soon ANY BENEFIT CLAIMANT can be sanctioned as why make just the unemployed suffer when you can make everyone suffer equally.

    NOW THATS FAIR ISNT IT ?

    gaia

    November 19, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    • Can a wpp insist you change a hospital appointment to attend the wpp office ?

      information

      December 8, 2013 at 12:53 pm

  7. if they send me on a work placement the first thing ill do is show up shit my self and be sent home 😉

    super ted

    November 19, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    • Fried onions seasoned with hot curry powder? That should do the trick 🙂

      JBS

      November 19, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    • If it’s McDonald’s they’ll stick it in a bun and promote you

      something survived...

      November 19, 2013 at 7:36 pm

      • ill even get a taxi there and shit in that too at a cost of 40 quid each way plus the fair and after a week it will be a right off.

        Soiling

        The driver may charge the passenger up to £40 for soiling if it requires the taxi to be taken out of service for cleaning.

        All taxi fares and tariffs information shown on these pages is effective from Saturday 6 April 2013.

        http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/taxisandminicabs/taxis/taxifares/1142.aspx

        super ted

        November 19, 2013 at 8:04 pm

      • £80 for two trips and soiling a taxi: that’s what those scum up there (bosses) pay for a dinner. Hope their restaurant was closed and they went to McDonalds instead right after your shit burger went on the menu.

        something survived...

        November 19, 2013 at 8:41 pm

  8. Priceless! I will be wearing moi best leg string, sir. You’re a gent and no mistake.

    Windmill1

    November 19, 2013 at 5:58 pm

  9. Very Important:

    Thanks to refuted.org for this.

    How to stop all DWP Universal Jobmatch emails

    The post dedicated to Universal Jobmatch has been updated with instructions on how to stop all DWP emails:

    http://refuted.org.uk/2013/10/13/jobmatch/Filed under: Email, Universal Jobmatch, Untick

    I recommend everyone on Universal Jobmatch follow these instructions as the default setting for emails on UJ is once a week.

    http://refuted.org.uk/2013/11/19/dwpemails/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 19, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    • If your JCP adviser or the DWP tries to email you after you have set it to ‘NONE’ the email will just bounce back to them saying it was undeliverable.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      November 19, 2013 at 6:17 pm

  10. Of course, if a Slave Driver suggests a Slave Song, some good ideas from Mel Brooks

    Eowyn Rohan

    November 19, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    • Or you let Britney tell you to ‘Work Bitch’

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      November 20, 2013 at 8:39 am

  11. How about a First World War Classic (to tune of ‘Auld Lang Syne’) ‘We’re here because we’re here’? Or (to ‘what a friend we have in jesus’) (when this lousy war is over:) “I will tell the sergeant major/ to shove his pass right up his arse”
    ———————————————————
    Always be unwell, -turn out to have swiped the bosses’ lunch/car-keys/underwear – and at all times remain highly impolite. Your overseers should be addressed as Mein Kommandant or Fascist Bitch. A brief middle finger or raspberry will be entirely appropriate.
    Stay in your overseers’ Travelodge room, running up massive room service bills on their credit card. No skull is too empty among those administering Community Work Placements. If asked to crawl, comply; through deep sticky mud, before continuing to crawl over your overseer. Community Work Placements are there in order for you to develop bunions you could compete for Great Britain with. If told to go and fetch a Latte from Starbucks, run. Tip it over your overseer’s head. The scheme is an excellent way of helping those without work reduce their lifespans to more economically manageable levels for the glorious State. Your overseer needs reminding they are the most worthless piece of monkey-foreskin in David Cameron’s old Scout satchel. Show them your YouTube video of you shagging their wife/husband/mother/father/horse/dead grandparents/today’s lunch they’ve just eaten. A heavy weight dropped on their empty parked car, never hurt anybody. Every morning look at your overseer and know you are a thousand times more a human being than they are.
    Ian Duncan Smith’s ideas are invariably formed in his turdpipe (his ganglion location). Every time he opens his mouth-arse, people with any sense take cover beneath a large umbrella.
    You are encouraged to help yourself to (and preferably also masturbate with) the overseers’ personal property at any time during the Placement. You are not allowed to do any untrained and dangerous work, unless accompanied at all times by a responsible person. Your overseer does not count as responsible, or as a person. So under health and safety laws, you are legally obliged to refrain from all types of work. If Ian Duncan Smith imposes any further anti-claimant rules on people without their permission, “every jobseeker and disabled person” is allowed to chase him off a very high cliff (just to be sure). Any overseer attempting to slag you off, or to prevent you from leaving the scheme, will be fitted with a Battle Royale style exploding collar. Any claimant who retains their sanity and self-respect for 20 days or more, is to be awarded their absolute freedom and enough money to live comfortably on for life. Any overseer who takes particular pleasure in tormenting claimants and getting them sanctioned, will be branded on the face and buttocks with the letters SS (Sadistic Scum); will be dressed in a snot-green liquorice-bootlace G-string (and tattooed on the chest with ‘Sanctioning Scum’) for the second offence; will have their nose and ears removed (and fed to the Downing Street cat) for the third offence; and will be tied to an electricity pylon for the fourth offence. Cabinet-members’ homes are to be ransacked every week at random times of the day or night, by aggrieved benefits claimants, and victims of cuts and sanctions. They will have the right to confiscate cars, works of art, money, or any other stuff they like the look of or want to sell. Penalties for violations of claimants’ human rights, will escalate, to include the loss of the overseer’s or cabinet-member’s house, tax-exemptions, children, electricity, gas, phone, computer, television, refrigerator, or oxygen. During the placement, No plaimant shall be forced to work for no pay, or to do any McJob; to work in the sex industry or for a crook, to wear a uniform, or to do anything against their own beliefs, ability or inclination. At the end of each placement, the claimants have the right to pour a vat of slime onto the overseers. Overseers disputing their conditions, are free to take up the matter by filling in a complaint form in their own blood, and delivering it to a box located at the other side of a shark tank.

    something survived...

    November 19, 2013 at 8:38 pm

  12. Well personally due to my spinal injuries and other problems am just going to ask to see the health insurance certificate and then The risk assesment for every task they order the slave ie me to do .

    growls

    November 20, 2013 at 2:40 am

  13. If I ”were” having health and safety concerns I would contact the Health and Safety Executive, and my solicitors. If I ”were” to have an accident, I would name JOBCENTRE PLUS, MY PLACEMENT PROVIDER as co-respondents for lack of training safety provision risk assessment etc etc

    mr smith

    November 20, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    • P.s:

      Is the ball and chain to be worn inside the sock or out??

      Chris

      November 20, 2013 at 9:14 pm

      • Don’t say that otherwise we will have the “fashion Police” after us as well, as in “does my ball and chain look big in this?”

        ps not Wayne again, surely not?

        Windmill1

        November 20, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    • What do you mean ‘were’!! You and everyone sent on Mandatory Work Activity ‘are’ going to have issues with health and safety and the ensuing injuries and compensation claims will make their exploiters think twice about workfare.

      Injury Claim Lawyer

      November 20, 2013 at 9:54 pm

  14. May I remind everyone here that the companies to whom we lend unemployed people expect impeccable standards of personal conduct and behaviour, and sullen, uncooperative or unenthusiastic attitudes will not be tolerated. If a company receives from us unemployed people who are unsatisfactory they will be less likely to request workless people from us in the future, harming the long-term viability of the scheme and undermining our long-term plans for the labour market in the UK. It is for these reasons that anybody who fails to smile, behave with enthusiasm or is otherwise uncooperative when taking part in a community work scheme will lose their benefits for a fixed period of up to three years.

    We are working for you.

    The Right Honourable Iain Duncan-Smith MP, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

    Iain Duncan-Smith MP

    November 20, 2013 at 1:51 pm

  15. Sickest sanctions story I’ve heard thus far is about a legless man from abroad who was unable to explain the steps he took to seek work.

    Sadly, that is not even a SICK joke. It actually happened.

    Tobanem

    November 20, 2013 at 3:25 pm

  16. I have just two more days to go on my 4 week Mandatory Work Activity, thank God. What a fucking waste of time. What was the point of it? It’s purely and simply to get you out of your nice warm bed on a cold Winter’s morn just for the bloody sake of it. Anyway, I’ll have done it by the end of the week, but next time they can fuck off, I’ll take a sanction instead.

    Landless Peasant

    November 20, 2013 at 10:08 pm

  17. To GROWLS

    I know a colleague who can barely walk, early sixties, He has to go to the hospital (John Radcliffe) in Oxford regularly. He has hitherto worked all his life. Has been a good worker but not computer literate (why should he be?). ATOS said he is fit for work. BUT the local GP will not challenge ATOS.

    I have worked as an CAB advisor and had many cases like this which I referred to a local Welfare Rights agency.

    Why don’t the doctor’s union (BMA) pick up and run with it? After all they are being challenged on their prognosis. Unfortunately they sit with their buttocks firmly clamped to the fence. Money, prospects… surely not?

    If I have not completely bored you yet, it was on Radio 4. The Chief Executive of MIND; for example, (psychiatrist of 25 years) who was part of the government working party, resigned on the basis, as he said, that two of his patients who suffer from severe schizophrenia were judged fit for work by ATOS.

    That was his opinion. It is out there but not well reported.

    If you have worked that long for a qualification, And you are being second guessed by people who do not know your patients…I am sure we can all draw our own conclusions.

    Windmill1

    November 20, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    • I think the best thing to do is just follow the instructions from the job centre to the letter. Then as soon as there is an accident sue for every penny possible.

      I keep getting told to apply for driving jobs despite not having a HGV licence. Just been to an interview this morning – made a good impression and got turned away for the licence part

      Chris

      November 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm

  18. Windmill Admirable Nelson AFTER trafalgar couldnt pass that ‘examination’. when I had mine I suffered from the old but permanent conditions of a broken spine, no use of my left arm , epilepsy

    I was also having fits and blackouts ie to the extent of collapsing and waking up in a hospital whilst awaiting heart surgery , With additional mental health issues due to memory damage etc thrown in and scored a vast total of NIL points.

    That is despite the tribunal which is a court of law awarding me at least twenty points for the permanent stuff the year before.

    When it finally got to a hearing , I pointed out that the errors made in the dwp’s statement without even getting to the differences in their statement and the audio recording. Ie they stated I had not been hospitialised for the black outs for over a year when I had been rushed in only a month before!

    The trib. adjourned to give them more time to get their ducks in a row , I doubt they would have done the same for me. its all fixed to just reduce the figures EVEN if it costs MORE money.

    When the buggers finally grind me down and I croke it , I want a simple funeral , a large bonfire will do. filling the main chamber of the houses of commons with all the mps in attendance with the doors locked.

    Its a bit rich demanding a state funeral but Im sure the majority of the population would be willing to agree to pay for it.

    growls

    November 21, 2013 at 12:51 am

  19. A reminder from “The Void”:

    “The war on the poor will not end if the Tories lose the next election”.

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2013/11/20/more-workfare-more-sanctions-labour-think-tank-proposals/

    Tobanem

    November 21, 2013 at 9:05 am

  20. AFTER THE SANCTIONS

    Merciless sanctions imposed on benefit claimants will continue irrespective of who gets into power at the next election, but there is another element of this war which does not get aired too much – even on the pages of Ipswich Unemployed Action!

    After being sanctioned, you are likely to be called in for interview by the Customer Compliance Team based in Jobcentres. This type of interview is automatically triggered when someone is sanctioned. The customer compliance team are concerned with benefit fraud.

    You will be questioned about how you have been able to maintain yourself without any money coming in during your sanction period.

    If you can show that you have survived off some meagre savings by showing them your Bank Statement, all might be well. But if you cannot do that, then that is another story…you are likely to be further investigated for fraudulently working on the fly or any other alleged nefarious activity.

    They never give up, do they?

    Tobanem

    November 21, 2013 at 10:08 am

    • That is really useful information Tobanem.

      No, we didn’t know that.

      Probably anybody who’s had it applied to them is too anxious to talk about it.

      Absolute bastards.

      Andrew Coates

      November 21, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      • For Andrew Coates

        Yes, I was initially surprised by the subject not being mentioned on here, but as you say, people are sometimes reluctant to talk about certain things.

        It could also be the case that the “automatic” Customer Compliance interview is not being applied evenly all over the country following every sanctions case. Perhaps the Customer Compliance team don’t have the time and resources to handle all the soaring sanctions cases anyway!

        Tobanem

        November 21, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    • I have heard of this being used by LAs when HB and CTA are stopped when someone is sanctioned. The LA will get conduct an interview with the person (it stops just short of being an Interview Under Caution so no PACE rules apply) and they expect to see evidence as you have described. The poor sanctionee is often left to sit for weeks to find out the outcome of the interview.

      Locally, I know of one person, who within two weeks of ending their claim for HB & CTA received a typically rude and aggressive letter from the LA demanding to know what they were living on and reminding the recipient about notifying changes of circumstance and the penalty for not doing so.

      For JC+ to sanction someone, then persecute them for daring to be alive whilst sanctioned is utterly reprehensible. I can see this tipping many already fragile individuals over the edge.

      Lucy

      November 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm

  21. If you get sanctioned – here is a link to the latest JSA/ESA Hardship claim forms.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/183765/response/452109/attach/4/5261%20JSA10.pdf

    If the Jobcentre won’t allow you to do this go to your local council and tell them you are claiming ‘NIL INCOME’ – you will have to fill out another rent application form, but it will get you your Housing and Council Tax Benefit paid whilst your sanction is in effect.

    As to what you’re living on, tell them you are being subisdised by you parents or friends.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 21, 2013 at 7:46 pm

  22. say the magic words this interview is being recorded and I wish my lawyer present

    growls

    November 21, 2013 at 10:04 pm

  23. ‘Bimbo McVey’ spouting crap again: – this time in The Liverpool Daily Post.

    21 Nov 2013.

    MP Esther McVey likens jobseekers to naughty schoolchildren.

    She defended the tougher “sanctions” now given to out-of-work people who fail to meet job-hunting requirements.

    http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mp-esther-mcvey-likens-jobseekers-6325174#.Uo5q2nY5juE.twitter

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 22, 2013 at 10:25 am

    • Mr Obi The truth will out. When Mp’s and Mep’s loose seats in the next elections. They will find themselves on the WP and Maw With Luck

      PJ

      November 22, 2013 at 10:33 am

  24. Commons Select Committee.

    Iain Duncan Smith to be questioned on Universal Credit and DWP statistics.

    Witness:

    4.30 pm, Monday 9 December, Committee Room at the House of Commons TBC.

    Rt Hon Iain Duncan Smith MP, Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/work-and-pensions-committee/news/dwp-ara-w-sofs/

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 22, 2013 at 12:19 pm

    • We will watch him BBC Parliament, like ‘awks, we will.

      Andrew Coates

      November 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm

  25. Now you will be getting arrested for posting critical comments:

    http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/11/23/shocking-censorship-police-threaten-to-arrest-satirical-cartoonist-for-criticising-rogue-landlords/

    It puts me in mind of a stage comedian in Hitler’s time who made a satirical joke about the Führer; the comedian was arrested and subsequently executed by beheading!

    Tobanem

    November 23, 2013 at 8:57 am

  26. Meanwhile, The Guardian does a story on Universal Credit, but before you read it, have a look at two of the public comments on the story – two comments which say so much. It’s good to know some people think things through, unlike IDS!

    First, here are the two comments:

    1). “I belive the general idea is that potential claimants are meant to give up in dispair rather than actually claim the money”

    2) “That’s right. Over at flythenest we have been discussing this and have put together all the changes that have been imposed by IDS since 2010.

    The existing situation is that any social security is harder to claim, it’s harder to keep a claim going, it’s harder to satisfy draconian conditions, and not only are most main benefits now subject to sanctions, the sanctions have been increased tenfold since IDS got going and are for a longer duration with more money being removed.

    No more right to immediate appeals, no time limit for DWP to review, no legal aid for appeals, and no benefit for many who do appeal.
    No Crisis Loans, no Social Fund, and various other benefits applying to the sick and disabled are being abolished altogether long before Universal Credit comes in.

    This is just another expense to add to the debacle so far. It has been estimated that the full national roll-out of UC (without this latest issue) was going to cost £12.8 Billion.
    All the changes IDS has made so far, and all the changes to come, mean less money for claimants and an eventual bill of about £25 Billion by 2015.

    Gordon Brown wanted to introduce a sort of Citizens’ Income at one point – he was told by his Civil Servants that the IT alone would be prohibitively expensive, and he settled for the tax credits system,
    The idea was that no person working 16 hours or more a week should have an income of less than circa £13K and tax credits were aimed at addressing that – unfortunately employers used this as a way to employ people part-time rather than full-time thus avoiding NI etc. and landlords hiked up rents knowing that HB would cover the shortfall.

    In retrospect, tax credits were a mistake, though they were a good idea in principle.
    Universal Credit is a very different thing entirely – I have read all the legislation and guidance, and far from making work pay it will cause many working people to lose out, and it’s even more complicated than the current system.

    The whole thing must be shelved.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/21/universal-credit-benefit-training-cost-millions

    Tobanem

    November 23, 2013 at 9:11 am

  27. Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 23, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    • Obi

      Yes, Ian Dalek Smith, the best alternative name for him so far – he’s certainly out to hysterically exterminate the unemployed.

      What’s it coming to when a dyslexic person is sanctioned for not being able to produce a written record of jobsearch activities, or the case of a legless man unable to explain the steps he took to find work, or terminally ill cancer victims are found fit for work?

      Tobanem

      November 23, 2013 at 4:52 pm

      • I maybe sanctioned for not having a push bike. I have inner ear problems and my balance is not very good. Hidden disbilities dont count.

        Mr Jones

        November 23, 2013 at 7:43 pm

  28. And you thought the Tory/LibDem coalition is bad enough?

    Well, here is an unbelievable example of a Tory/Labour coalition in action currently:

    http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/8380-bedroom-tax-campaign-group-calls-for-end-to-labourtory-alliance

    What’s it coming to, right enough!

    Tobanem

    November 23, 2013 at 5:01 pm

  29. People say live every day like your last. So I lie in bed each day passing in and out of conscientiousness while watching Jeremy Kyle as any self respecting unemployed person will do (according to the Daily Mail).

    Don’t engage just don’t vote. There is no point. As in I would like none of the above to appear on the list. And if a sufficient majority is not obtained then it has to be rerun.

    You might say “in your dreams” but the chasm between the ruling parties and the rest of us has never been greater. I am not a politico just very angry.

    Windmill1

    November 23, 2013 at 6:08 pm

  30. Provider Referrals and Payments (PRaP)

    does anyone know how much these comps are going to be paid for the mwa
    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/supplying-dwp/what-we-buy/welfare-to-work-services/prap/
    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/pg-part-p.pdf

    super ted

    November 23, 2013 at 6:10 pm

  31. Mega Off Topic:

    If anyone is wondering what the song is to the current advert on TV regarding the new Nexus 7 Tablet – it’s ‘Slade – Everyday’ 1974.

    Not a bad song.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 23, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    • I used to sing this song to Miss Good & Sexy – a French teacher at my first school.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      November 23, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    • “Mega off Topic?” Don’t think so, I think it is quite apposite

      “I wish it could be Christmas everyday”.

      Not a bad song I agree. (It is the only time that “Noddy” Holder (Slade) is seen to work). He is retired now.

      When we do workfare in our chain gangs and hi- vis jackets, I think it should be our anthem.

      All other ideas welcome.

      Windmill1

      December 2, 2013 at 1:47 pm

  32. Pleeeease Not the fashion police. Don’t give that ”b” anymore ideas

    The Man In The Suit

    November 24, 2013 at 11:17 am

  33. The Observer reports that Iain Duncan Smith wants to scrap the ESA work-related activity group:

    “The work and pensions secretary is pushing to scrap a part of the benefits system that helps sufferers of recent illnesses get back into employment. These individuals are covered by the term “work-related activity group” (WRAG) and are regarded as being capable of work in the future.”

    Apparently even Esther McVey is opposed to this.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/23/iain-duncan-smith-wrag-benefit-cuts?CMP=twt_fd

    JBS

    November 24, 2013 at 12:15 pm

  34. Obi Wan Kenobi :
    If you get sanctioned – here is a link to the latest JSA/ESA Hardship claim forms.
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/183765/response/452109/attach/4/5261%20JSA10.pdf
    If the Jobcentre won’t allow you to do this go to your local council and tell them you are claiming ‘NIL INCOME’ – you will have to fill out another rent application form, but it will get you your Housing and Council Tax Benefit paid whilst your sanction is in effect.
    As to what you’re living on, tell them you are being subisdised by you parents or friends.

    If you tell them you are being subsidised by family they will refuse the claim.

    ghost whistler

    November 24, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    • ghost whistler, you are right. And in anticipation of mass sanctioning in April – cwp time. I would urge anyone who has any savings, no matter how miniscule, to withdraw them right now. Because if you leave it until the last minute, it will show on your statements. The hardship deciders are a canny lot, for sure. I am anticipating a sanction, myself.

      I have already downloaded the following:

      https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/183765/response/452109/attach/4/5261%20JSA10.pdf

      And I’ve also found out where my local foodbank is as well, and made the relevant enquiries about going about getting food parcels. I would urge anyone reading not to be complacent. Don’t think it won’t happen to you.

      jj joop

      November 27, 2013 at 11:25 am

    • To successfully claim hardship you have to say that you have absolute NO support – no friends, family or savings to fall back on – you will be without the essentials of food, fuel (gas and electricity) and clothing. Basically, if you are not award hardship you will DIE!

      Jobcentre Victim

      November 29, 2013 at 2:56 pm

  35. Let’s look at the new 6 month MWA (Community Work Placements) coming in april 2014.

    Assuming a figure of 100,000 people:

    100,000 people x 780 hours (6 month MWA/CWP) = 78,000,000 free unpaid hours of work.

    78,000,000 hours at £6.31p = £492,180,000 total unpaid wages.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 29, 2013 at 2:16 pm

  36. RE PREVIOUS POSTINGS
    MR COATES…OBI WAN KENOBI…GAIA…TOBANEM
    IT DOES LOOK LIKE SEGREGATED SIGNINGS IN IPSWICH.
    SEETEC SIGN WITHIN DOOR A PAPWORTH TRUST SIGN INSIDE DOOR C. AT LEAST THERE IS NO STANDING OUTSIDE WITH DOOR C, ALTHOUGH THERE APPEARS TO BE ”TAME” YETI ON DUTY JUST INSIDE THE DOOR

    MERRICK

    December 3, 2013 at 9:15 am

  37. IF YOU ARE ON THE WORK PROGRAMME, CAN THE JOBCENTRE STILL SEND YOU MWA AS WELL AS WP?

    MERRICK

    December 3, 2013 at 9:24 am

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