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Written by Andrew Coates

October 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm

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  1. Note the anti-workfare demo.

    Sisters, Brothers! There’s a place for you – in the People’s Assembly!

    Andrew Coates

    October 29, 2013 at 3:39 pm

  2. NAPO, the union represents probation staff have announced that they will begin a national strike on 5th November from 12 noon, until 12 noon the following day.

    “On this day we hope to raise awareness and highlight the threat to public safety from the government’s plans to privatise probation.”
    Members in Ipswich have asked if we can coordinate some of their activities with the Peoples Assembly.

    This follows the decision of the PCS executive to support Nov 5th and Ipswich NUT’s endorsement and participation.

    The Fire Brigades Union has announced further firefighters’ strikes on Friday 1 November 18.30-23.00 and Monday 4 November 06.00-08.00 after government and fire employers failed to offer any firm guarantees for firefighters facing ‘no job and no pension’ as a result of pension changes.

    Postal workers in CWU are expected to be on strike on November 4th.

    Andrew Coates

    October 29, 2013 at 4:46 pm

  3. “Police are requesting “on behalf of the Crown Prosecution Service” that magazine vendors refrain from selling today’s edition of Private Eye.”

    http://dwpexamination.org/forum/political-soap-box/police-trying-to-remove-private-eye-from-shops/#p114828

    Annos

    October 29, 2013 at 6:18 pm

  4. I know its an august interview of this year but this recruiter talks such bulls its a laugh.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23687458

    Going sideways isn’t a bad idea but only if its very short lived. This idea that a none relative job doesn’t effect your chances of getting back into the sector you trained for is totally incorrect. This twat recruiter is just trying to get degree students on the books to increase his selling power while not having to pay them anymore money.

    I hate to say this but this recruiter needs to realise that actually they are better than he is academically as the act of studying for a degree let alone gaining it is a far harder task than any unskilled to semi skilled job.

    This aside if you study the jobs available you will no doubt see that actually the jobs on offer require skilled people by the employers while semi to unskilled vacancies are near non existent currently. Im not saying you cant find work 90 min away, just that employers generally only ever hire locally and for obvious reasons.

    This recruiter needs to get off his fat arse and get them work that fits their skills or find another business to work in.

    gaia

    October 30, 2013 at 8:52 am

    • Yes gaia, there is virtually no upward mobility in income brackets. We clearly demonstrated this in What Britain Earns. This would be the danger in taking a job in a lower income bracket – you would remain stuck there – for your entire working life. The myth of the dish-washer working their way up to the position of CEO of a multinational company is sadly just that – a myth.

      Another finding we made, is that the vast majority of incomes in the UK fall into the lower brackets – at the time this was around £10-12K. Very few people actually earn in the region of £100,000. Well, we do (Dan earns slightly less), but we are the exception.

      Dan & Peter Snow

      October 30, 2013 at 9:31 am

  5. ONE FOR THE BONFIRE OF AUSTERITY

    Remember, remember November 2007, in the time of New Labour?

    Who was it that said: “We must rip up sicknote Britain and we will”?

    Read this little report for the answer:

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/20153/Hain-I-ll-put-a-stop-to-sicknote-Brits

    What, with mandatory work now not being classed as forced or compulsory labour, despite the fact that it is, it’s all enough to make you sick!

    Tobanem

    October 30, 2013 at 9:13 pm

    • I loved the part where he says “At any one time there are 660,000 vacancies, so the jobs are out there And more than 100 employers have agreed join a scheme that will guarantee job interviews and work trials to people on benefits”.

      All these jobs yet these 100 employers could only offer interviews and work trials, weren’t any of them part of this 660’000 figure and if not why not ?

      gaia

      October 31, 2013 at 6:35 am

  6. So mandatory work is not slave labour?

    Just ask the victims of mandatory workfare if they are free to leave without the menace of a penalty?

    Tobanem

    October 30, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    • Already explained that Tobanem on Mr coates previous story as to why its not considered slave/forced labour. I strongly suggest people read up on what I posted previously as within it is a clear definition of what civil duty/activites is and how its established.

      gaia

      October 31, 2013 at 6:42 am

    • I think the general concensus is that if we are getting paid JSA/ESA (little more than £2/hr on workfare) that is equal to getting a proper wage in people’s eyes. Not everyone gets housing benefit so they are limited to struggling by on £71 a week. And to work a 35 hour week for that is a joke.

      Try lowering working persons wages to that level and there would be a massive outcry. Anyone who thinks that living on £71 a week is a lifestyle choice must be mad. At least if they’re going to impose workfare at least pay the minimum wage for it!

      Chris

      November 1, 2013 at 4:02 pm

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        November 1, 2013 at 4:06 pm

      • Chris I am all for the national min being in place for this work for benefit scheme, that’s why in another post I stated that a claimant should only work the hours in relation to the benefits they draw.

        I agree someone only drawing JSA shouldn’t be expected to work for the benefits longer than 12/13 hours a week which equals around this £71 a week. Theirs nothing unfair about working for your benefits as what we are getting paid after 6 months on the dole has nothing to do with us paying our NI so we cant claim we paid into it as the workers are indeed the ones supporting us.

        You know in your own life when theirs money, you earn it then pay your bills and that when monies tight and we fall behind we are all of a sudden being indebted to companies until we get paid. Well the UK economics is exactly the same, this countries money is tight so we borrow, then repay when we collect the taxes and NI contributions.

        You buy 3 for the price of 1 deals as its value for money and this idea of (not the tories true motive) working for benefits is just that. Even though it doesn’t feel like it but this country is as much yours as it is IDSs and crew so even you and I must think about how as a country we spend our money, even what we borrow.

        The trick is to strike a balance between people and money which sadly doesn’t happen while people vote for tories or even labour as all they think about is money despite their bull rhetoric to suck people in.

        I wont go on as this is a very deep topic but the idea of working for benefits is a great idea, just not the way the tories and again even labour want it to work and this insistence not to tailor it to reflect the national min is in my opinion proof of their true intent.

        gaia

        November 1, 2013 at 11:56 pm

      • Surely it would make more sense to give the cash that is being squandered on Work programmes and will be needed to supervise workfare to real companies that CAN and COULD offer trade skills and some sort of future.

        In return you get people learning skills required for jobs and the vital work experience/work ethic that IDS believes that needs to be drummed in under duress by sending the unemployed out to do the stuff that the courts are too frightened to sentence real criminals to do.

        I only curious to see what Milliband and co have in store with this guaranteed jobs for all those out of work!

        Chris

        November 2, 2013 at 2:11 pm

  7. And if you are not sick enough yet, have a read at his this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-24727644

    Tobanem

    October 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm

    • The murderer was a G4S security guard!

      Now I’m not saying they are all like that…!

      Tobanem

      October 30, 2013 at 9:25 pm

    • Thanks Tobanem, this is the exact point I made to Lucy as regards how pointless a CRB is and why.

      gaia

      October 31, 2013 at 6:46 am

      • Gaia, in practice CRB checks, Enhanced or ordinary may be pointless. The point is, that Serco were supposed to have Enhanced CRB checks done on every one of their employees who would be working with vulnerable individuals. They didn’t do it.

        Lucy

        October 31, 2013 at 11:31 am

      • Lucy, according to the news Mr Carter had no relevant previous convictions so a CRB would have not prevented this and that is the point im making in that in near all of these attacks and abuses on vulnerable people, the employee had no criminal history.You see its not criminality but the state of mind that needs to be checked.

        What I find interesting in this case is considering this guys noted medical condition, that makes him classified as vulnerable to. You see if we both are not vulnerable then no CRB is required so then it only stands to reason that a vulnerable person wont need a CRB to look after a another vulnerable person or to confuse the issue just because we are not vulnerable people are we saying one wouldn’t still harm the other ?

        I will finish now but as I don’t think I have said it before to your good self but CRBs are not about strangely enough purely delving into someones criminality, their about honesty and most importantly TRUST.

        Scrap them I say and go for good old MOD clearance as if you’ve never had to do one, let me tell you they are hell to pass as they don’t just delve into your entire history but your family and friends to, they’ll turn over stones you never knew you had.

        gaia

        November 1, 2013 at 12:44 am

      • That’s too about MOD clearance, gaia… I went for a job as a part-time cleaner in an MOD office once… and was subjected to one, they even go as far back as your grandparents! No stone left unturned for an MOD clearance!

        Maggie the House of Commons Cleaner

        November 1, 2013 at 4:06 pm

      • That’s true – oops!

        Maggie the House of Commons Cleaner

        November 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm

  8. “Internal JCP memos confirm what we already know. They go out of their way to make things difficult and deliberately withold the best advice.”

    http://dwpexamination.org/forum/general-discussion/internal-memos-reveal-fresh-attacks-on-benefit-claimants/#p114890

    Annos

    October 31, 2013 at 3:12 am

    • This culture of don’t help the public isn’t new by any standard as when I was a civil servant back in 1985 you were instructed the very same thing.

      The phrase used on me was “don’t tell them anything they don’t already know”.

      Somethings never change, even in a democracy.

      gaia

      October 31, 2013 at 6:50 am

      • More Like As I Was Told Too The Need To Know.

        ANNIE NONNIE MOUSE

        October 31, 2013 at 4:56 pm

      • Actually need to know is about classified material which appealing against a decision is certainly not, that said nothing surprizes me these days Annie Nonnie Mouse as look at the crap DWP spout.

        gaia

        November 1, 2013 at 12:55 am

  9. Gaia, for the last time please, a CRB check will show convictions. An Enhanced CRB Check will show any contact a person has had with the police as well as convictions. Warnings & cautions, producers etc included. This is why the Enhanced one is needed for people working with vulnerable individuals.

    I was referring to the case where Serco have not carried out the Enhanced checks, not to anything or anyone else.

    *heads desk*

    Lucy

    November 1, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    • “producers” what the hell is that, Lucy? Anyway, CRB checks just lull people into a false sense of security, it just means you haven’t been caught yet, and really crafty people NEVER get caught… but are good at stitching-up other people and bringing them into contact with the police which will appear on their CRB check. Basically an enhanced CRB includes “intelligence” which means if you have ever been in contact with the Police, arrested, accused of something, been complained about, been arrested, been acquitted of a crime (found NOT guilty!) , convictions from the year dot, juvenile ‘offences’ this will show up. Effectively (Enhanced) CRBs make a large swathe of the population UNEMPLOYABLE – what happened to rehabilitation and why should people be denied employment of the basis of some accusation (no smoke without fire). They also have the knock on (deliberate) effect of cow-towing those trying to hold down a job or seeking one, I know a lot of people too scared to drive (can’t wait to get home) in case they get “pulled over by the police” and their (enhanced) CRB will show it – would you employ someone who had been pulled over by the police especially when you had a choice of candidates who hadn’t – why take the risk. And would anyone need an (enhanced) CRB to work in, say, a warehouse? Could say a lot about ‘credit checks’ which seem to be required now for even the most lowly of jobs. I know, (enhanced) CRB checks make you feel safe and all that, but you can bet that that guy just jailed to 22 for child abuse would pass it, if it is any comfort to you, Lucy!

      INAL

      November 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm

      • A producer is what you use to get when you got pulled over on a traffic stop when the police didn’t have the it system (I think its called PNC ) they now have INAL.

        Thanks for the backup INAL but I think Lucy refuses to except the cold hearted truth that all these attacks on VULNERABLE PEOPLE are perpetrated by people who DONT have any criminal past thus as you already agree makes a CRB check no more effective than not doing one, thus muting Lucys point entirely.

        (That’s right Lucy, assumed law abiding citizens are touching up our kids, robing and raping our grandparents and NOT people with criminal records for the reason given below).

        Your quite correct INAL, anyone with a criminal past is often always over looked when presented with candidates with no criminal past. Under the act itself employers can hire you even with a criminal past providing your not on the register (outlined this part of the act to Lucy in an earlier post) but because the risk rests on the employers shoulder they just pay caution to the wind and just wont hire any with a criminal record fullstop which Lucy would know if she ever read it.

        I don’t dispute many a company isn’t as diligent and or conformist as they should be but none the less as reflected above it isn’t the criminals violating these vulnerable people by far and large when we talk about being an employee who has access to this sector.

        Most crimes against vulnerable people are NOT committed while under the employment of companies that don’t carry out these checks but actually the companies that do.

        gaia

        November 2, 2013 at 12:47 am

      • 🙂

        Sisters of Mercy

        November 2, 2013 at 2:20 am

  10. Oh sorry Lucy, I shouldn’t have said read it but read them as theirs a myriad of acts to cover, not just the Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Act.

    Ive been on both ends of this stick what with it at times in the past being a required part of my occupation in both having to apply at the request of an employer and apply for employees as an employer so am well aware of its does and donts, cans and cants so trust me when I say its very grey and at all not surprizing that companies circumnavigate it through its own wording.

    So please believe me when I say its a lot more complicated than I feel you seem to realise as every situation isn’t always in a school or a hospital or carehome which in this recent case was none of the above and infact a conference meaning this guard in accordance with said law was not in regular nor sustained contact, meaning a CRB was not infact legally required.

    gaia

    November 2, 2013 at 2:42 am

    • Gaia for the sake of all mercy, enough!

      My original mention of CRB checks was part of a small bit of jokey banter with Something Survived. I mentioned that Serco had come to grief for not ensuring that Enhanced CRB checks were done on their staff before they were given jobs that involved working with vulnerable people.

      That was it Gaia. Nothing else.

      I did not mention anything pertaining to my belief/knowledge about CRB checks, just the one simple fact that you have picked up and won’t stop running with, banging on as if I had actually discussed this with you. I haven’t. I’m not going to.

      Lucy

      November 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm

      • Then don’t talk about stuff you clearly know nothing about as people want and use facts, not opinions.

        gaia

        November 4, 2013 at 5:27 am

  11. ATOS faces more controversy over its sponsorship of the 2104 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow as disabled people plan disruption of the Games after local council refuses to drop ATOS as the sponsor.

    Why was this inept sponsorship allowed in the first place? Having ATOS sponsoring the Games is like the commandant of Auschwitz running the Red Cross.

    Report here:

    http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/11/council-vote-means-glasgow-2014-faces-direct-action-over-atos-sponsorship/

    Tobanem

    November 2, 2013 at 9:44 am

    • One Glasgow Councillor let the cat out of the bag by saying:

      “In addition, its [the ATOS] sponsorship is inextricably linked to the contract it has to deliver IT support for the games”.

      Tobanem

      November 2, 2013 at 9:55 am

    • It is incredibly insulting.

      People in Ipswich are up in arms about ATOS.

      Andrew Coates

      November 2, 2013 at 1:00 pm

  12. lucy was right on comments made some time ago regarding low level jobcentre staff thinking they know better then anyone else, and telling people there’s nothing wrong. i experienced it during the week.

    these know it all advisers are acting ridiculous,their not qualified to comment on conditions or even healthcare professionals.

    ken

    November 2, 2013 at 12:24 pm

  13. You will need a frequency scanner to do this – most scanners up to 512 Mhz will recieve these frequenies.

    UK Jobcentre Security Frequencies (G4S Securitas)

    http://ukradioscanning.com/viewtopic.php?t=188

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 2, 2013 at 12:46 pm

    • OK THANKS We Will Change Them

      G4S

      November 3, 2013 at 10:11 am

      • Only an ignorant and poorly educated fool like security would say such a foolish thing when radio hams de code encryption in their sleep.

        gaia

        November 4, 2013 at 7:04 am

    • Don’t you just love it when techies come together.

      gaia

      November 4, 2013 at 5:40 am

    • IDS Dark Lord of the Sith – Esther McVey do you really want to become IDS’s successor?

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      November 2, 2013 at 5:33 pm

  14. Romainian people being contacted for employment in the UK, before they have even arrived in THE U.K.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 2, 2013 at 6:54 pm

  15. Lets see how fast the current acting Government would like to be ‘Privitised’.

    OH! My God – No Chance!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 2, 2013 at 7:21 pm

  16. OT.

    “The Metropolitan Police has decided not to investigate allegations about the past business affairs of the Conservative Party Chairman Grant Shapps made by the Labour MP Steve McCabe. But, in an unusual move, the Met has told McCabe that lawyers who advised the police concluded that the selling of the software may be ”an offence of fraud” and perhaps other offences.”

    http://blogs.channel4.com/michael-crick-on-politics/constitute-offence-fraud-police-drop-case-shapps/3588

    The law is there for you and I, NOT them, they are above the law!!!.

    Annos

    November 4, 2013 at 1:17 am

  17. You all be careful what you are signing at the jobcentre: last time I signed they tried to trick me into waiving my rights to privacy under the Data Protection Act 1998 under the pretext of some ‘recruitment campaign’ with an employer, you had to say what types of work you were interested from a menu i.e cleaner, dish-washer. Anyway, the form they tried to trick me into signing was a “consent for jobcentre plus and their partners to share information with this particular employer, employers and third parties (none of it was in bold, just for emphasis). So, it didn’t even relate to this particular ‘opportunity’, it was a ‘catch all’ that the jobcentre will keep on file allowing them and their partners (so there goes the ‘work programme’ data sharing in one fell swoop, to share your private and personal information with any Tom, Dick & Harriet! Funny thing was as I waited to sign everyone else was just signing this form without even reading it Is you typical jobseeker lobotomised or something? I do wonder at times? Anyway, be very, very careful of what they sneak under your nose to sign (especially if done with a smiling face). They are oh, so crafty and sneaky!

    Job the Seeker

    November 4, 2013 at 1:51 am

    • Just to emphasis it was to allow their partners to share information as well, so there goes the ‘work programme’ data sharing in one fell swoop. Of course you can always withdraw consent, but this was done so sneakily that you wouldn’t even realise you had given consent in the first place. It just goes to show how they will use any underhand method to trick you into giving consent to the sharing of you personal information – they must really hate the Data Protection Act 1998 and the protection it affords us. Anyway, just a heads up in case anyone gets caught out by this sort of thing.

      Job the Seeker

      November 4, 2013 at 1:58 am

      • Its funny you say that as an office near me is getting claimants to apply to TOYS R US, yet they have no jobs on their site at all for the area, not even remotely close when I looked.

        As you say this application asks a lot of questions strangely relative to that , that DWP constantly try and reinforce but legally know they cant. I decided to in a fashion fill it out deliberately putting all the opposites that DWP would sanction a claimant for but made clear in writing how in accordance with DPA I expect my wishes in regards to the control of the flow of my personal and sensitive data to be carried out.

        As you can imagine, I never heard from them again and strangely enough and why I mention it, neither has DWP who handed to me who in the annuals of handing me vacancies has never ever not chased it up, brought it up either.

        DPA is a powerful tool yet claimants hardly ever use it but truly should, especially now DWP are spying on their every move.

        This act is so powerful it gives a claimant the right under law to change or remove any and or all personal and or sensitive data from UJ they desire and get this, WITHOUT EXPLAINATION. Just make sure to put it in writing and have it acknowledged by DWP first. If you cannot edit your profile(cant remember as I don’t have an account with UJ despite being unemployed (they tried and failed on multiple occasions)), then simply advise DWP in writing that you intend to close down your account as the site doesn’t supply the facilities to amend.

        Yes they might pull out the jobseekers direction racket again but they CANNOT mandate through threat of anything that you part with your personal an sensitive data.
        This means you would still have to open an account, still fillout the profile and upload a CV but you wont have to do so with any of your personal and or sensitive data meaning the account is useless. I have mentioned this before as a way to push back your rights but sadly claimants are to fearful to fight beyond moaning on forums and to each other.

        (FOR THE RECORD YOUR JOBSEEKER DIRECTION ENDED THE MOMENT YOU COMPLIED WITH IT BY WAY OF PRODUCING REQUESTED EVIDENCE ASKED FOR BY DWP).

        That account is your account, it is up to the claimant and not DWP to decide its content. You also are full within your rights to encrypt your data so although you cant do this on the site, you can to your CV which I can state as fact as mine is, WONT CURRENTLY UPLOAD to the site.

        I use PDF REDIRECT PLUS which not only encrypts but also copyright protects to.

        gaia

        November 4, 2013 at 6:29 am

      • Also forgot to mention their trying the same tactic with placements by getting you to hand your CV to a group prior to the employer.

        STATE YOUR HAPPY TO SEND IT TO THE EMPLOYER SO AS TO RETAIN YOUR RIGHTS UNDER DPA (no explanation required) BUT REASONABLY AND LEGALLY GRACIOUSLY DECLINE THEIR REQUEST.

        Again I myself have and do this.

        Another tact they might have or will in the future employ is getting you to part with such at these interview courses which if the case can be remedied simply by replacing anything you deem is personal and or sensitive (in accordance with DPA) with
        BLAR,BLAR,BLAR. Yes these actual words but theirs nothing stopping you from being more creative.

        gaia

        November 4, 2013 at 6:59 am

  18. More than 80,000 children’ homeless for Christmas

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24798498

    So much for housing reform.

    Benefit delays ‘hit hundreds of terminally ill patients’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24784691

    So much for welfare reform

    gaia

    November 4, 2013 at 7:06 am

  19. gaia :
    Then don’t talk about stuff you clearly know nothing about as people want and use facts, not opinions.

    Gaia, is it possible for you to make yourself look even more silly than you do already?

    Lucy

    November 4, 2013 at 8:29 am

    • I don’t even bother reading gaia’s postings anymore. You could literally spend the rest of your life listening to her talk about absolutely nothing at all.

      jj joop

      November 4, 2013 at 10:07 am

      • Interesting jj joop,when you say anymore I take it you mean since October 30, 2013 at 5:27 pm | #149 when you replied to one of my post or is that FICTION ?

        And while talking saying absolutely nothing are you saying you never said to myself I quote ” You know your stuff”, dated October 11, 2013 at 11:27 am | #46 ?

        Seriously JJ joop, this attempt to discredit me on account of not whistling a tune you like is so obvious its laughable especially since yourself was previously involved in who is policeman,helpinghand and clearly felt which is demonstrated in your posts regarding it that I wasn’t one of them and lets not forget my posts to visitors on posters posting comments they are trying to pass off as fact.when in reality they are nothing but an opinion.

        gaia

        November 6, 2013 at 9:00 am

    • presenting fiction rather than fact, what does that say about you then Lucy?

      gaia

      November 5, 2013 at 8:14 am

      • No one presented fiction Gaia. This is all in your head. As is the imaginary discussion about CRB checks that you think you are still having with me now.

        Other realities are available, please avail yourself of one that requires less hysteria.

        Thank you.

        Lucy

        November 5, 2013 at 9:34 am

      • Oh I can assure you I wasn’t discussing but dictating, dictating the very laws you elected not to study up on before opening a post full of wrong assumptions in a veil attempt to kid others into believing that you actually know something.

        You see theirs billions of deluded fools like you on the net that have threatened its ideal of neutrality with your false and factually incorrect stories that we now have governments world wide trying to place censorship on it. Im not interested in you Lucy , im interested in protecting the net itself as ive been with it since the days of zx81 and the 56k phone line, when people like you didn’t even know what a computer was and quite frankly still don’t.

        gaia

        November 5, 2013 at 2:37 pm

      • Take no notice of him/her Lucy.

        Lumpenprole

        November 5, 2013 at 3:13 pm

      • The Ipswich demo today outside ATOS/DWP attracted around 30 people – in the rain – which is a lot for town like Ipswich.

        It was really really angry.

        Andrew Coates

        November 5, 2013 at 3:57 pm

  20. Check Out This One
    http://www.tjobs.ru

    www.tjobs.ru

    November 4, 2013 at 8:40 am

  21. sorry should be http://www.jobs.ro

    www.tjobs.ru

    November 4, 2013 at 8:41 am

  22. Everyone should know this but security/’customer care’ can send messages directly to an adviser’s computer screen… 🙂

    JC User

    November 4, 2013 at 1:53 pm

  23. “UK’s Supreme Court legitimises compulsory workfare”

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/11/05/work-n05.html

    Annos

    November 5, 2013 at 11:07 am

    • How can the judges rule it as anything else when you consider the forced labour convention which states clearly that civic obligations/activities are not considered as FORCED LABOUR ?

      Whether liked or not its coming BUT in the passing time of its plan WILL show its true colour, what that colour is however remains to seen and fought over.

      I agree unemployment is the platform for servitude and that the min and living wage ideal will be eroded as a consequence along with freedom rights but only because UK citizens have no stomach for a fight, no fortitude and haven’t displayed such steel since before the 70s.

      Browbeaten by business they will scamper amongst each other fighting over crumbs cast down by their ruling class and so history repeats, repeats, repeats.

      gaia

      November 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm

  24. Lucy :
    No one presented fiction Gaia. This is all in your head. As is the imaginary discussion about CRB checks that you think you are still having with me now.
    Other realities are available, please avail yourself of one that requires less hysteria.
    Thank you.

    Do you think gaia could be our old friend wayne/a police officer/helping hand and so on?

    jj joop

    November 5, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    • NO SHE’S FAR TOO UGLY FOR THAT. MUST BE SCARFACE. [AFTER THE TATTOOS]

      NET

      November 5, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    • Interesting jj joop,when you say anymore I take it you mean since October 30, 2013 at 5:27 pm | #149 when you replied to one of my post or is that FICTION ?

      And while talking saying absolutely nothing are you saying you never said to myself I quote ” You know your stuff”, dated October 11, 2013 at 11:27 am | #46 ?

      Seriously JJ joop, this attempt to discredit me on account of not whistling a tune you like is so obvious its laughable especially since yourself was previously involved in who is policeman,helpinghand and clearly felt which is demonstrated in your posts regarding it that I wasn’t one of them and lets not forget my posts to visitors on posters posting comments they are trying to pass off as fact.when in reality they are nothing but an opinion.

      gaia

      November 6, 2013 at 9:00 am

  25. UPDATE ON CHANGES TO SIGNING SIGNING ONCE A FORTNIGHT BUT AT WPP OFFICES. JCP STAFF IN ATTENDANCE DAILY

    NET

    November 5, 2013 at 4:39 pm

  26. New sanctions see more benefits cut, DWP figures show.

    Have you been affected by the changes to Jobseeker’s Allowance?

    Please use the form below to contact us with your views and experiences.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24833627

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    November 6, 2013 at 10:59 am

    • This is great news but not if the press sweep it under the carpet after just oneday.

      We all know if these sanctions are looked into that the truth will, will out IDSs mission to sanction as many as possible so as to create false and misleading figures to boost the image of hes governments failing reforms with a election looming in the not to distant future.

      One can only hope as advertised by others to this site that the NET is indeed closing in on IDS but lets not get complacent as I believe this government will attempt to replace him before the state of the truth is fully recognised.

      gaia

      November 6, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    • To add further credence to your story Obi heres an article from the huffington post on claimants being asked to sign BLANK JOBSEEKER AGREEMENTS.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/nick-stephenson/jobseekers-unemployed_b_4218459.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics

      gaia

      November 6, 2013 at 2:11 pm

      • Thanks for that Gaia, a very very important story.

        Andrew Coates

        November 6, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      • would it be legally binding as a contract to simply write in really big letters filling the sheet. This Sheet agreement was blank when signed by . Acceptance of this blank agreement by the DWP as a jobseekers agreement constitutes the full terms of this agreement.

        The insist the clerk signs and dates it to

        or whatever the relevant legalese would be?

        growls

        November 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm

  27. I knew this was coming, when the NHS goes private the same will come into force to pay for a visit to the doctors, people can’t win, they never will!!!, the top 10% want it ALL.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3912171.ece

    Annos

    November 6, 2013 at 11:03 am

  28. David Cameron stated on live TV in the house of commons that they are doing more to train and support engineers to fill the job sector shortages.

    Bullcrap Cameron as your welfare minister has done precisely nothing to assist me in my studies and infact under the DWP rules must still be giving up if a job opportunity arises (not in engineering but any job) irrespective of the fact its cost me 3500 pounds worth of debt.
    I had to agree to this before they would allow me to attend the course.

    To further the joke statement of our dear prime minister he allowed the course fees to be doubled as the original fee if I had the money to hand would have been less than 1500.

    Oh its so easy to catch this consistent lying by government, just so easy.

    gaia

    November 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm

  29. Some know, some don’t even care but we have all born witness to job duplication on all jobsites we apply through including UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH.

    Now I was assured by DWP that the site is vetted yet todate this duplication process perpetrated by recruitment agencies continues day in, day out with some advertising the same job as much as five times in a single day (5 separate adds).

    Well ive had my suspicions and researched this for almost a year now and finally broken some ground. Ive managed to get someone to finally admit whats what BUT sadly they wont stand up in court to out it for you guessed it, fear of losing their job. This matters not as if we can get government to look will easily prove exactly how many jobs these recruitment agencies actually have.

    Nerds and engineers will already be aware of a common practice by businesses to manipulate browser search engine results, I myself in the past was paid to do so.
    Well that’s exactly what recruitment agencies are doing on jobsites be it far less technical in nature (ie, their just re typing) and thus throws the figure of actual jobs into doubt along with who else is equally guilty of allowing it to happen.

    Ive already started work contacting the office of national statistics to see exactly how they calculate how many jobs have been created that government announce every quarter as if done as POSSIBLY SUSPECTED would throw undeniable proof that the figures are infact incorrect.

    This will IF TRUE, seriously damage the Tories effort to maintain creditability as regards its welfare reforms and job creation.

    gaia

    November 6, 2013 at 1:44 pm

    • As long as jobs boards are free to post on the practice of cutting and pasting will continue. There needs to be some way to filter out the Avon, Kleeneze, Betterware and franchise opportunities from the UJM site. There’s even ads for the instructor college on there today for driving instructor training courses at £4000 a pop. And Cv library – don’t even mention that crappy site.

      Chris

      November 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm

  30. Burn down the jobcentre, hang the fucking adviser
    Because the sanctions that they constantly issue
    Keep fucking up my life
    Hang the fucking adviser
    Because the sanctions that they constantly issue….

    The Smiths (Reformed)

    November 7, 2013 at 12:30 am

  31. G4S suck lol

    Forumer

    November 22, 2013 at 11:45 am


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