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Universal Credit: Staff “Waiting for it to implode”.

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Last night on BBC Four  this was on ,

In The Report this week Simon Cox finds out why the Department for Work and Pensions has struggled to create an IT system that can deliver Universal Credit.

The government announced in 2010 that it planned to create a single payment – combining six of the current benefits available for those struggling financially. The plan for Universal Credit was developed in Opposition by Iain Duncan Smith, now Secretary of State for Work and Pensions.

It was envisioned that there would be a pilot in April 2013, with the system rolled out to all new out-of-work claimants by October 2013. By 2017 all those in receipt of benefits should be claiming Universal Credit.

However, it was announced earlier this year that the pilot would only include a very small number of new claimants – the most simple to process. The national roll-out has now been scaled back. And in September this year the National Audit Office produced a damning report, saying the project had been beset with problems.

That is a pretty mild summary.

On the programme we learnt that the on-line service in the Pilot areas is barely functioning.

There is no facility to “save” so that if you are caught out half-way completed (On a public terminal) all your information is lost.

Any ‘change in circumstances’ has to be done by a (paying) telephone line – the system cannot cope with any on-line information.

They have already spent over £3000,000 million in wasted – discarded – software.

There are complaints about the “lack of control” of spending as private companies involved make a cushy living out of their own failures.

Official estimates are that a mere 1% of claimants will be in the system by next April.

That is only for the JSA people (the unemployed – us)  they are trying the poorly working system out on.

Margaret Hodge, chair of the Public Accounts Committee, has already said that this situation ahs been allwoed to spiral out of control.

In September she said,

Iain Duncan Smith is responsible for trying to implement this hugely complicated project too fast. But the department is responsible for not telling him to hold. As a result, the department seems to have embarked on this crucial project, expected to cost the taxpayer some £2.4bn, with little idea as to how it was actually going to work.”

On the BBC some staff were said to be “waiting” for the system  to “implode.”

In the meantime more ‘Pilots’ are under way, list here,

Universal Credit is said to be going to be fully implemented by 2017.

Possibly.

The Mirror adds,

DEBT charity Citizens Advice Bureau is warning of big problems ahead with Universal Credit as families struggle to budget their finances and fail to operate the new online system.

Tameside CAB in Greater Manchester, one of the first Universal Credit pilot areas, has reported that last month 78% of its clients could not complete the online application forms without assistance.

CAB also found many families that are about to be moved on to the new benefit are already struggling and will need emergency financial support to help pay for basics.

Universal Credit replaces six existing benefits and is paid as a monthly lump sum.

It has been introduced in four pilot areas and will be rolled out nationwide gradually.

Citizens Advice chief executive Gillian Guy said: “Ministers must listen to evidence which shows we need clarity about what support will be put in place to help people with children or ill health deal with Universal Credit.

“The difficulties reported from Tameside are a warning that people will need strong local support.

“Ministers must allow people to request fortnightly payments to help them deal with the transition to monthly payments or even more people may need to seek emergency financial support.”

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Written by Andrew Coates

October 11, 2013 at 3:45 pm

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  1. Iain Duncan Smith was interviewed recently by Conservative Home, and this is what he had to say about Universal Credit and IT:

    “People get hung up about the IT side of it, but the honest truth is IT only automates these things, the truth is you can deliver this in manpower, IT is there to make it more efficiently delivered, quicker and cheaper, but at the end of the day it’s not really about IT, it’s about life change…universal credit will improve the income of the first person into work, which means that if there’s a second person the economic choice is much more of a choice now than an imperative.”

    Stop laughing, all of you.

    If you want to see just how loopy the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions really is, here’s the link:

    http://www.conservativehome.com/highlights/2013/09/we-will-stop-paying-people-to-be-idle-an-interview-with-iain-duncan-smith.html

    JBS

    October 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    • “the truth is you can deliver this in manpower” : I thought the whole point of UC was to streamline benefits and do away with the manpower/human aspect of claiming and thus save money.

      If I may paraphrase Bart Simpson: Bite me.

      jj joop

      October 11, 2013 at 6:24 pm

  2. I bet Merkel appreciated his wit, “I will be brief because I have sat here like the rest of us for an hour and a half, and I have really lost the will to live.”

    We wonder how the poor chap would cope with sitting at the Dole office 5 days a week doing one of those Mandatory job searches.

    Andrew Coates

    October 11, 2013 at 4:23 pm

  3. We wonder how the poor chap would cope with sitting at the Dole office 5 days a week doing one of those Mandatory job searches.

    if they will stump up the bus fair ill go just to piss them off and im up for it for next week and will want my foi for all the info they have on me for the last 10 years should give them something to do 🙂

    super ted

    October 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm

  4. CUSTOMER COMPLIANCE INTERVIEW

    While we all wait for Universal Credit to implode, let me raise another element of Jobcentre procedures designed to harass claimants, namely, the CUSTOMER COMPLIANCE INTERVIEW.

    The Customer Compliance Interview is not new; it’s been around for some years; and although it has been mentioned on this site before, it is something that has not been aired too frequently, so can I just ask users of this site to comment on their knowledge of this subject.

    As I understand it, a common way in which a claimant is ordered and threatened by letter to attend a Customer Compliance Interview, is when a disgruntled member of the public telephones the Benefit fraud hot line and accuses a claimant of working on the fly while claiming benefits.

    There may be other reasons, so I think it would be a good idea to stimulate further comment on this matter.

    Tobanem

    October 11, 2013 at 7:12 pm

    • @ Tobanem

      A disgruntled JCP worker can also contact the fraud dept, triggering a Customer Compliance Interview. These interviews can also take place in your home, during which they will tape everything you say. They tried to do it with me, but there was no way they were coming into my home. I would rather starve.

      They suspended my JSA (rather than sanctioned it). The only way I could get it reinstated was to sign off and then sign back on again. However, I couldn’t sign back on until they had ended my previous claim, and they took a couple of weeks to do that. I think the best thing to do is to stop signing on as soon as they suspend your JSA.

      I never did find out what it was all about…

      Lumpenprole

      October 12, 2013 at 8:30 am

    • Its another weak tactic practiced by DWP to unsettle claimants im afraid.

      Heres a link to an FOI giving details

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/customer_compliance_department

      gaia

      October 14, 2013 at 8:26 am

    • Had a chance to look at this a little further and boy if this doesn’t demonstrate the point of how low DWP will go, nothing does.

      The first black flag should be the fact of why its un cautioned. They basically have twisted this so as not to have to come under criminal law. You see these interviews work like a work tribunal in that they don’t have to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt amongst other things not in the favour of the claimant being interviewed.

      Its a ploy to put fear into claimants by stressing about following procedure, it even has a way of making claimants sign on more regularly.

      DWP like to talk fraud and abuse yet seldom ever call in the correct authority and why, because they know criminally it wont stand up, that their evidence is not only suspect but entirely questionable under the definition of criminal law.

      If you know you have done no wrong then you need to push them into making it criminal but thats im afraid easier said than done and is differently presribed in most cases.

      gaia

      October 15, 2013 at 7:51 am

    • Yea like going away from home for the day and running in to your pa on the train home

      derrr

      October 16, 2013 at 10:22 am

  5. While people continue to be relentlessly harassed and impoverished by various DWP methods, the Red Cross is now intervening in Britain to help the hungry.

    It is happening at a time when the average family in Britain throws away 5kg of food each week.

    Not only that, but as much as 40% of food is rejected by supermarkets because it is “ugly”! Such food, although still edible, is used for animal feed or ploughed back into the ground!

    Beyond belief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tobanem

    October 12, 2013 at 9:14 am

  6. And yet another and very important reason Universal Credit won’t ever work right is because it was designed to work with Windows 98 to Windows ME, these platforms are based on the old X86 unstable systems.

    The newer stable X86 systems include all the Windows platforms from Windows XP up to Windows 8, but to bring UJ up to speed they would have to totally redesign it from the ground up.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 12, 2013 at 11:35 am

    • Simples!

      As Alexander The Meerkat would say.

      Andrew Coates

      October 12, 2013 at 3:35 pm

  7. “Exclusive: Red Cross launches emergency food aid plan for UK’s hungry”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-red-cross-launches-emergency-food-aid-plan-for-uks-hungry-8872496.html

    “IMF explains “Double Irish Dutch Sandwich” tax avoidance”

    http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1026675.shtml

    Annos

    October 14, 2013 at 1:08 am

    • Tobanem

      You beat me to it again!, lol. I should read the above posts first before posting!.

      Annos

      October 14, 2013 at 1:15 am

  8. JBS

    October 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    • Roast the bitch!

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      October 15, 2013 at 7:48 am

  9. RACHEL REEVES – TOUGHER THAN THE TORIES.

    LONG-TERM UNEMPLOYED WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO “LINGER ON BENEFITS”

    When the whole fiasco of Universal Credit finally implodes leaving a trail of devastation behind it, guess what?

    Will a gallant Knight in shining armour suddenly emerge to rescue the victims? No. Instead it’s going to be tougher than the Tories – thanks to Labour’s hard line on the Welfare State.

    Have you heard of Rachel Reeves, the new Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary?

    Here she is:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/oct/12/labour-benefits-tories-labour-rachel-reeves-welfare

    Tobanem

    October 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    • Tobanem:

      “Under Labour’s jobs guarantee scheme – arguably its biggest policy announcement so far and one that party strategists are frustrated has not received more attention – under-25s will be offered a job after one year of being unemployed, while over-25s will be offered one after two years out of work”.

      At least we will be offered a job at the national minimum wage rate. This is better than the current system of being forced to work unpaid on MWA’s and having to endure pointless work skills courses that we have all done before.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      October 15, 2013 at 7:16 am

      • Hello Obi Wan Kenobi

        Yes, Labour’s Jobs Guarantee Scheme appears to be a bit better than MWA etc.

        But it is still a “scheme” and the “tough (or even tougher) talk is still there – as, of course, are the sanctions!

        All this tough and tougher talk is there to appease the electorate – Tory and Labour alike!

        Let us hope the unemployed will be given realistic jobs and not have to endure pointless “work skill SCHEMES” which they have all done before – as you said yourself!

        I ask yet again, where are all the real (proper, paid) jobs for all of the unemployed in the first place?

        Tobanem

        October 15, 2013 at 8:29 am

    • Conservatives and labour couldn’t or should I say cant get you into work so I would like to see where labour get these jobs from and why wait a year or two, why not offer them straight away when someone becomes unemployed.

      I would like to say that the UK public were gullible but im afraid the truth is one of psychological conditioning. You see society has been taught to rely on someone else, to delegate in order to avoid responsibility and that’s precisely how they are behaving.

      We all know that its not the poor and out of works fault that the planet crashed back in 2007, we all know its not labours fault either so what do the public do, they don the rose colour glasses while staring at their reflection in a face full of sand. The government/politicians know this and play the public like characters in a punch and judy show.

      So what if they abolish JSA and ESA, its not going to make their problems disappear, infact as more people get laid off it only serves to deepen the lack of funds to be received in the form of taxes and NI contributions thus stifling government services further. Whether government like it or not they still have to tackle the ever growing welfare bill towards the mysterious social protection and exclusion rackets.

      Even without this all the sectors like any product in a shop will continue to grow in terms of expenditure so what will the government do next I ask, how will they make sweeping cuts without losing valuable votes from working families and pensioners who stand to suffer most or will they do as they prescribed labour did and borrow more and more to cover up their inability to manage a country while flogging off public assets in some veil attempt to hide their shame.

      All this government and labour if they get back in can do is simply lie and threaten people because they don’t have the faintest idea how to sail the UK boat through uncertain waters.

      The national debt is still growing and labour aren’t in power so whats the conservatives new excuse going to be, did the liberals stifle your game or is it that the poor just don’t die quick enough.

      gaia

      October 15, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    • its weekly signings now at the job centre for ex work programme,expect this to become common.possibly daily has been mentioned too.the workload in job centres is immense.

      locally the same people continually arrive to sign and work is impossible to find.its doubtful if any of this is going to make any difference in finding work.the most important point is job logs are fully completed,there is nothing they can do.

      ken

      October 17, 2013 at 9:42 am

      • Ken when I lived in London. During the Falklands conflict, my local Jobcentre {Unemployment Benefit Office as was] had us in 3x a week different times and different days.

        Londoner

        October 17, 2013 at 12:31 pm

  10. “For example, all of the Royal Mail’s real estate is being transferred to the new private owners for less than the value of the Royal Mail’s London real estate alone. Neil Clark reports that one Royal Mail London depot is worth about one billion British pounds; but the entire real estate assets of the Royal Mail–public property–is being transferred to the new private owners for about three-quarters of one billion British pounds. The deal was so loaded in favor of the private purchasers that the share price rose almost 40 percent on the first day of trading. (This might have been some sort of nominal trading as the deal possibly has not been finalized.)”

    http://paulcraigroberts.org/2013/10/14/whatever-became-western-civilization-paul-craig-roberts/

    Annos

    October 14, 2013 at 8:22 pm

  11. ZERO-HOURS CONTRACTS

    For those of you who thought that taking a job with a zero-hours contract was not compulsory for benefit claimants, read this:

    http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/if-you-think-labour-took-a-wrong-turn-heres-iain-duncan-smith/

    Tobanem

    October 15, 2013 at 9:31 am

  12. For the further attention of Obi Wan Kenobi.

    You might be interested in the following items regarding the speech made recently by the new Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary. Apparently, such a speech is an example of Orwellian “Duckspeak” (qv).

    The first is from the Black Triangle Campaign – and it shows how the highly understandable concern from sick and disabled people to Rachel Reeves and her “even tougher” stand on welfare:

    http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2013/10/14/the-tories-are-creating-a-hostile-environment-not-just-for-migrants-it-doesnt-matter-if-policies-work-only-that-they-come-down-hard-on-malingerers-and-migrants/

    The second item is from a blogger who writes an “open letter” to Reeves via his blog:

    http://paulbernal.wordpress.com/2013/10/13/dear-rachel-reeves/

    Tobanem

    October 15, 2013 at 9:52 am

    • Yes, a very handy term. From the appendix of 1984:

      “Ultimately it was hoped to make articulate speech issue from the larynx without involving the higher brain centres at all. This aim was frankly admitted in the Newspeak word duckspeak, meaning ‘to quack like a duck’. Like various words in the B vocabulary, duckspeak was ambivalent in meaning. Provided that the opinions which were quacked out were orthodox ones, it implied nothing but praise, and when the Times referred to one of the orators of the Party as a doubleplusgood duckspeaker it was paying a warm and valued compliment.”

      Lumpenprole

      October 15, 2013 at 11:48 am

  13. COME ON MR COARES TELL US HOW MUCH YOU MAKING FROM YOUR FAKE SITE!!! YOU AND YOU YOUNG IMMIGRANT WIFE ARE LIVING HIGH LFE THANKS TO YOUR SITE!!! YOU ARE NOT MARXIST YOU ARE RICH MAN INDEED!! HOW MANY MORRE JIMMY CHOO SHOES HAVE BOUGHT FOR IMMIGRANT WIFE THIS WEEK MR COATES?? TELL NOW.

    POLICE INSPECKTOR

    October 15, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    • I NOW BEEN PROMOATED TO iNSPECKTOR MR COATES!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW???

      POLICE INSPECKTOR

      October 15, 2013 at 6:55 pm

      • Have you claimed your expenses back for your duck house you now have a pro moat instead of an amateur one,

        growls

        October 15, 2013 at 10:40 pm

      • Hello Wayne… Still Unable to spell ?. Try a literacy course. Your nice kind and loving wpp will arrange it for you

        learn to spell dear

        October 16, 2013 at 8:29 am

      • Hello [ Wayne]. I suppose your alter ego could be Karen Passmore. I’ve just seen your posts on the void.

        net

        October 21, 2013 at 8:28 am

  14. I see the foodbank issue is escalating

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24536817

    gaia

    October 16, 2013 at 9:09 am

  15. learn to spell dear :
    Hello Wayne… Still Unable to spell ?. Try a literacy course. Your nice kind and loving wpp will arrange it for you

    YOU ALL THINK YOUR SO FUNNY DONT YOU!!! ILL MAKE YOU LAUGH NOW. MR COATES YOUNG IMMIGRANT WILL BE DEPORTED!!! BEFORE SHE GO WE WILL TAKE ALL JIMMY CHOO SHOES OFF HER. WHOSE LAUGHING NOW?? NOT MR COATE FOR SURE. TELL US HOW MUCH YOU MAKE FORM YOUR FAKE SITE NOW MR COATES??? I AM NOW IN CHARGE OF IPSWICH POLICE!!!. I AM NOW INSPECKTOR OF POLICE!!. DO YOU HERE ME MR COATES??? WHO WILLBUY JIMMY CHOO SHOES FOR WHEN WE DEPORT YOUR IMMIGRANT WIFE???

    POLICE INSPECKTOR

    October 16, 2013 at 9:57 am

  16. NO ONE CARES ABOUT FOOD BANKS YOU FOOL!!! ALL MR COATES AND HIS FAKE WEBSITE ARE INTRESTED IN ARE COST OF JIMMY CHOO SHOES!!

    POLICE INSPECKTOR

    October 16, 2013 at 10:00 am

  17. gaia :
    I see the foodbank issue is escalating
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24536817

    NO ONE CARES ABOUT FOOD BANKS YOU FOOL!!! ALL MR COATES AND HIS FAKE WEBSITE ARE INTRESTED IN ARE COST OF JIMMY CHOO SHOES!!

    POLICE INSPECKTOR

    October 16, 2013 at 10:01 am

  18. growls :
    Have you claimed your expenses back for your duck house you now have a pro moat instead of an amateur one,

    VERY FUNNY!!!

    POLICE INSPECKTOR

    October 16, 2013 at 10:02 am

    • This Guy Police Inspector. Bad Spelling Bad Grammar [Bad Breath]
      Methinks This Character Is Wayne {Kerr?} Scarface or Helping Hand

      School Teacher

      October 16, 2013 at 10:19 am

  19. The fact that Mr Coates buys my shoes shows that he has good taste.

    Jimmy Choo

    October 16, 2013 at 10:06 am

    • He Buys My Underwear too

      Marksand Spencer

      October 16, 2013 at 11:55 am

    • And very good shoes they are too. Better than the ones I bought from Primark which are already leaking.

      Andrew Coates

      October 23, 2013 at 4:25 pm

  20. Off topic.

    With all the problems people are having I thought I would put up two posts that I saw on another site. I know so many people are short off or have no money, that is why I have put this post on.

    “The bank clerk who helped me told me that when the automated voice starts telling you the options to speak the word ‘advisor’ and you will bypass all that rigmarole and get straight through to a real, live person”

    Then I saw this.

    SAYNOTO0870.COM.

    http://www.saynoto0870.com/search.php

    Annos

    October 16, 2013 at 10:58 am

  21. If this blog piece from Computer Weekly is correct, the DWP is considering scrapping its present IT systems in a desperate attempt to save Universal Credit:

    ‘A source at a DWP IT contractor said the department had started a pilot to see if it could replace its core benefits systems with something more in keeping with the Cabinet Office’s disruptive ICT policy.

    It was a Cabinet Office ‘rip and replace’ strategy that would put £70bn in social security payments delivered by seasoned IT systems being subsumed into Universal Credit at high risk of failure.’

    http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2013/10/welfare-state-infrastructure-e.html

    Utter madness.

    JBS

    October 16, 2013 at 4:15 pm

  22. Has everyone had there letters from the Jobcentre? – if not you will be handed one as you go in to sign on.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 17, 2013 at 2:22 pm

    • Got nothing from them today Obi Wan Kenobi?

      chris

      October 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    • Any chance of you putting this letter up Obi Wan ?

      gaia

      October 19, 2013 at 7:26 am

      • Gaia:

        I haven’t got a scanner, but in brief it states:

        ‘You may be contacted by your adviser by phone, email, and via your universal jobmatch account so you should make yourself available for contact (or return contact if unavailable) between 9am and 5pm Monday to Friday’.

        This is then followed by the usual threats and bullshit.

        And then it states:

        ‘On every attendance at the jobcentre please be prepaired for the appointment to last up to an hour, this is to ensure all follow up action necessary can be taken’.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        October 19, 2013 at 9:39 am

      • Gaia:

        I might also add that this letter looks like it’s been knocked up in a hurry by some SS Nazi in one of the back offices as it doesn’t have any version number (such as v1.0) and it also doesn’t have any signitures stated on it such as ‘On Behalf Of The Secretary Of State’.

        Without this its not worth the paper it’s printed on and has no legal standing.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        October 19, 2013 at 9:47 am

      • Interesting Obi Wan Kenobi, I wonder what part b is to this latest DWP strike, Why when clearly they never ever have in the past do they now want 24/7 contact as after all its not like their going to offer you guaranteed paid work now is it so whats so important all of a sudden?

        I suspect theirs possibly more to this and the give away is this up to an hour at signing on periods when you factor in jobseekers direction/decision makers and sanctioning. It takes the than 15min to check evidence and sign on, it takes half and hour if you add preparing a MWA so what takes an hour ?

        gaia

        October 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

      • There is a move to have some People’s Assembly Action on the November the 5th on this.

        Specially protests outside Jobcentres.

        What do people think?

        Andrew Coates

        October 21, 2013 at 3:18 pm

      • An hour long (or even longer say 2 hours!) appointment is to give them enough time to stitch you up for a sanction, i.e subjecting your job-seeking activities to forensic examination, going through your ‘job-log’ with a fine-tooth comb, filling in the ‘doubt’ dialogue boxes, conferring with the ‘decision maker’/colleagues etc.

        Jobcentre Victim

        October 22, 2013 at 11:31 am

  23. DPAC.

    Jobcentre Plus, The Work Programme and Sanctions Survey.

    http://dftr.org.uk/JCPSurvey/survey-engine.php?wibfile=JCP.wib#

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 17, 2013 at 2:29 pm

  24. says on my letter, you will create a profile and cv in uj by date. you can do this using your computer but you will need to accept cookies.

    2b. Information held by DWP about how the authority DWP is using to require claimants to create a
    profile and public CV on UJ supersedes the individual’s right to protect their data under EU law and
    their right to refrain from consenting to submit their data to a non-necessary 3rd party
    DWP does not hold information that answers the first part of the question (concerning how the
    authority DWP uses to mandate claimants to use UJ supersedes an individual’s right to protect
    their data under EU law) because it considers that legislation relied on by DWP to require
    some claimants to create a profile and public CV does not supersede EU legislation

    super ted

    October 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    • What if you can only access through public computers they do not allow cookies

      honey monster

      October 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  25. concerning privacy. DWP considers that it is required to comply with that legislation. Again,
    there has been no court ruling on this point and as such there is no definitive information about
    whether the authority DWP uses does supersede the individual’s right to protect their data
    under EU law.
    DWP does not

    super ted

    October 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm

  26. Therefore if I use the library and can’t use cookies I am Fucked

    Honey Monster

    October 17, 2013 at 4:55 pm

  27. the dwp cant make you accept cookies not even on there iads or home or internet cafe computers there the ones that r fucked

    super ted

    October 17, 2013 at 5:05 pm

  28. 1a. Information held by DWP about whether it is correct that a claimant cannot be mandated to use a
    DWP internet access device (IAD) to comply with a jobseeker’s direction requiring use of Universal
    Jobmatch (UJ) if the claimant has not given consent for cookies to be placed on the DWP IAD.
    DWP does not hold information about whether it is correct that a claimant cannot be mandated
    because there has been no ruling by a court on this question as such there is no definitive
    information about whether the statement is correct.

    super ted

    October 17, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    • Can The DWP Claim CROWN IMMUNITY As Far As DPA Is Concerned

      Qus

      October 18, 2013 at 9:25 am

      • Crown immunity: This is a slightly difficult one to explain in your context Qus but basically it means the government are immune from prosecution so the answer in your case would mean yes they could ignore most laws/regulations for the simple fact you cant get at them.

        This doesn’t imply they are bullet proof.

        I will dig out some stuff off the net and post it soon.

        gaia

        October 19, 2013 at 7:45 am

  29. “A week ago in Gordon Gecko Moved To London, I wrote about the UK government’s various blindingly bright ideas for its economy, like for instance “a new fiscal mandate that will require further welfare cuts to build an overall budget surplus by the end of the next parliament”, with the 2013-14 budget deficit of £120 billion to fall to £43 billion in 2017-18. The money saved through the £77 billion in welfare cuts to the poor will be used to hand money to the corporate world to achieve the myopic pipedream of “100,000 more companies exporting and a doubling of our exports to £1 trillion by 2020″, the latter being an exact copy of Obama’s earlier goal for US exports, an equally unrealistic piece of cheap political yada yada.”

    http://theautomaticearth.com/Finance/nobel-winner-robert-shiller-demolishes-uks-help-to-buy-scheme.html

    Annos

    October 17, 2013 at 9:00 pm

  30. Can DWP claim crown immunity as far as revelations on the dap is concerned

    just asking

    October 18, 2013 at 9:26 am

  31. “The average cost of renting a home privately across England and Wales has reached a record high of £757 a month, according to a survey.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24566849

    Annos

    October 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm

  32. It was only a matter of time.

    “Bloomberg News — Americans Sell Body Parts For Income”

    http://paulcraigroberts.org/2013/10/18/bloomberg-news-americans-sell-body-parts-income/

    Annos

    October 18, 2013 at 8:48 pm

  33. The amount wasted so far on IT for UC is £34 Million, but could rise to a staggering £140 Million.

    http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3468430/dwp-may-still-write-off-over-140-million-of-universal-credit-it/

    Meanwhile, thousands are mandated to work for no wage, and thousands more rely on Food Banks and soup kitchens. IDS should be sacked for creating this disgusting state of affairs.

    Landless Peasant

    October 19, 2013 at 12:18 am

    • Landless Peasant:– Good Afternoon. Do you or anybody else have any idea what happens about signing up for Universal Credit. The problem is that if you use Public Access Devices, the most time you get is between half an hour and an hour with 15 minute breaks as with using computers in libraries. You as I understand it CANNOT save and return as with applying for Jobseekers Allowance. What would be the position in this case. I have also found as with another post on this subject, COOKIES ARE NOT ACCEPTED on most public access IAD’s so what happens if WPP and or JCP tell you to accept cookies. My current WPP wants us to ask the library to accept cookies (They Won’t Of Course)

      philip

      October 19, 2013 at 12:49 pm

  34. This clears something up. I recall a few years ago, canteens in SOME government offices and most hospitals WERE governed by some sort of crown immunity under the the HSE legislation

    Philip

    October 19, 2013 at 7:57 am

  35. Heres the info on Crown Immunity

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200203/cmselect/cmpubacc/588/2102314.htm

    http://fire.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=96.5;wap2

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmselect/cmhaff/540/54014.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Proceedings_Act_1947

    This is a prime example of having to know law rather than merely quoting it as this immunity doesn’t protect them fully but makes cases against very much protracted.

    gaia

    October 19, 2013 at 7:58 am

  36. Does this mean as in the case of Cait and Poundland, the law can be changed retrospectively to enable Mandated Instructions to the unemployed (regardless of the out come to the unemployed-as far as mwa etc is concerned)

    Philip

    October 19, 2013 at 8:47 am

  37. Here is an interesting report on the Courts bursting at the seams with Council Tax arrears cases:

    http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/oct/18/thousands-court-council-tax

    Meanwhile over at ATOS:

    http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2013/10/18/atos-workers-vote-for-industrial-action/

    Tobanem

    October 19, 2013 at 9:02 am

    • Many were muddled by the summons letter, which told them on page one that they should appear at 9.30am at the magistrates court, before informing them in huge block capitals on the third page that they did “not need to actually attend the court”.

      Sczerina Perot, a volunteer lawyer advising people on how to challenge the summons, said this was a “well-crafted” attempt to discourage thousands of people from turning up at the court. “But if you don’t attend court, you automatically have a judgment made against you. It is an irritant for the court when people turn up,” she said.

      they wont want people turning up at court,they should not be discouraging it as its a right. they will get a ” judgment by default” against you,there are cases,court paperwork should not confuse either.especially with the disabled who can argue their case.the council wont want this and will do what they can to stop you before appearance,it makes everyones’ job easier.

      ken

      October 19, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    • It’s only taken that long because its long . The caring socialist council of wigan started ending summons out after about 8 weeks when people owed them around £30 in missed payments.

      Its a money making scheme for the council, I know they can add £60 for court costs do they also add on an admin. cost?

      growls

      October 19, 2013 at 10:05 pm

      • sorry should read ‘that long because its ‘London’

        growls

        October 19, 2013 at 10:05 pm

  38. Crown immunity isn’t about making laws, its about ignoring them phillip but as in all things their must be a logical and legal argument to endorse such immunity.

    I must say if DWP are pulling out this card then they’ve definitely got tired of being thwarted by their own and European laws.

    To be honest without knowing where everyone is getting this immunity stuff from and what it applies to makes it difficult to assess currently Phillip.

    gaia

    October 19, 2013 at 9:23 am

    • Thank You. I am worried about MWA on the WP. (If) and when it comes, What if I have an accident at work ?. Would I be covered by Health And Safety ? or if others involved hung out to dry ?

      philip

      October 19, 2013 at 12:35 pm

      • Should have also said. Have had accidents in the work place previously!

        philip

        October 19, 2013 at 12:38 pm

      • Phillip:

        Don’t worry, anywhere they send you HAS to have ‘Liability Insurance’ by law, and if you get injured whilst on an MWA (wherever that may be) you have the same rights as any employee to make a claim.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        October 19, 2013 at 12:46 pm

      • Phillip:

        This includes all charities and colleges.

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        October 19, 2013 at 12:50 pm

      • TYPO IT’S SPELT PHILIP Don’t worry though thanks again

        philip

        October 19, 2013 at 12:53 pm

  39. THANKS OBI. ;0)

    philip

    October 19, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    • Philip:

      Go to the link below and on the right hand side select ‘Department for Work and Pensions’ you will be able to view freedom of information answers to all kinds requests to do with anything regarding benefits.

      http://www.whatdotheyknow.com

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      October 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      • As I Have Previously Said. Due To A ”Couple” Of Accidents At Work, I was Told By A Previous Employer That As I ”Cost The Company”. I Would Be Difficult To Insure For Employer Liability Purposes. IF Because Of This Any ”Upcoming Placement” Refuses To Take Me Could I Receive A Sanction For Something That Happened In The 1980’s.?

        Philip

        October 20, 2013 at 9:24 am

  40. left hand side, sorry!

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 19, 2013 at 1:02 pm

  41. BREEZY, SNEEZY, FREEZY – AND NASTY

    And now, as winter approaches with the greedy, grasping energy companies increasing their prices, read this:

    http://tompride.wordpress.com/2013/10/19/over-half-a-million-pensioners-dead-and-the-tories-have-gone-from-long-johns-to-jumpers/

    Tobanem

    October 19, 2013 at 4:52 pm

  42. “Geraldine Van Bueren QC is Professor of International Human Rights Law and Visiting Fellow at Kellogg College, Oxford.”

    http://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2013/10/18/should-we-have-an-enforceable-right-to-food-professor-geraldine-van-bueren/

    Annos

    October 19, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    • Any Relation To MARTIN VAN BUEREN Former President Of USA

      Newsweek

      October 20, 2013 at 11:36 am

  43. What next from Cameron & Co? Perhaps, telling the poor that is acceptable for the poor to cats, dogs and donkeys if your hungry – nice!

    Essence of Scouse

    October 21, 2013 at 3:19 am

  44. What next from Cameron & Co? Perhaps, telling the poor that it is acceptable for the poor to eat cats, dogs and donkeys if your hungry – nice!

    Essence of Scouse

    October 21, 2013 at 3:22 am

  45. An interesting report on housing if any are interested

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmworpen/memo/hb/hb44.htm

    gaia

    October 21, 2013 at 6:13 am

  46. Now most go around believing that the welfare reform is apparently IDS’s stroke of genius, well span your horizons across Europe as this practice along with austerity is far more common than most believe.

    This is part 1 of 5 so if the video doesn’t continue from one to the next then just left of this video your find the rest.

    gaia

    October 21, 2013 at 8:10 am

  47. OFF TOPIC BUT A QUESTION; If you are on the Work Programme, you are still obliged to go to Jobcentre Plus once a week or every other week depending what group you are in (!).
    Can Jobcentre Plus issue you with Jobseekers Directions as well as your WPP. Also as far as Directions/Mandates are concerned can Jobcentre Plus over rule WPP if Jobcentre thinks that WPP Mandate/Direction will stop you carrying out their {JCP} Mandate/Direction. Thanks for any advice. My local Jobcentre seems to be having ”issues with my WPP. And no it’s not S—-c. Thanks for any advice

    Northolt

    October 21, 2013 at 9:28 am

    • Going to need more detail Northolt like what are these directions and how you perceive DWP are having a problem with this direction handed out by your WP?

      Also are you sure it was a direction and not a threat of sanctions if you don’t comply?

      gaia

      October 21, 2013 at 10:01 am

  48. when i signed at ipswich today, i was given a letter telling me that the next time i signed i would be required to attend a meeting to be informed of new signing arrangements and method of payments. anybody else been to one of these meetings or had the letter.
    my next appointment will be on 5 november

    net

    October 22, 2013 at 9:01 am

  49. Left an answer to jobcentre user on the void pages.
    I think this has something to do with the introduction of Universal Credit etc. I’ll let you know

    net

    October 22, 2013 at 10:50 am

    • Hello, back from the ‘Void’ lol 🙂 Yeah, might be something to do with UC, why can’t they just say so.

      Jobcentre User

      October 22, 2013 at 11:54 am

  50. Detectives have released CCTV images of a man they want to trace in connection with inquiries into a fire at a job centre in West Dunbartonshire.

    The fire broke out at 04:00 on Friday at the Job Centre Plus in Bank Street, Alexandria.

    Windows were smashed and an attempt was made to set fire to the inside of the premises, police said.

    The man seen in the CCTV footage was pushing a bike and had a plastic bag covering his head.

    He was wearing a distinctive knee-length light camouflage jacket, with a black leather jacket underneath and light trousers.

    The bike was a man’s mountain bike with a distinguishable white basket on the front.

    A spokeswoman for Police Scotland said: “Detectives at Alexandria police office are keen to speak to anyone who recognises the man in the image, perhaps from his clothing or the bike.”

    Man in CCTV images sought after Alexandria job centre fire

    BBC News

    October 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm

    • The fight back begins.

      letzgo wrecking

      October 22, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    • … and if you do by any chance happen to recognise this guy keep it schtum… 🙂

      ACAB

      October 22, 2013 at 6:23 pm

  51. I BET THE TORIES WONT LIKE THIS

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24622919

    gaia

    October 23, 2013 at 7:41 am

  52. A copy of the latest Universal Jobmatch Toolkit:

    Chapter 1 produced on 23/05/2013 is included in Annex 1 of this letter
    Chapter 2 produced on 05/06/2013 is included in Annex 2 of this letter.
    Chapter 3 produced on 25/07/2013 is included in Annex 3 of this letter.
    Chapter 4 produced on 22/05/2013 is included in Annex 4 of this letter.

    No amendments have been made to any of the chapters since they were produced on the
    dates outlined above.

    Paragraph 92 is now the jewel in the crown.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/181144/response/440922/attach/html/3/4916%20response.pdf.html

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 23, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    • Thanks for that Obi.

      jj joop

      October 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    • Yeah, it’s got to be sweet!

      Actively Seeking Employment

      92. We cannot specify to a JSA claimant how they provide us with records of their jobsearch
      activity and Universal Jobmatch will not change this – it is not therefore possible to require
      JSA claimants to give DWP access to their Universal Jobmatch account.

      jj joop

      October 23, 2013 at 4:03 pm

  53. Dare we hope that George Osborne’s Help to Work / work for your dole scheme will be kicked into the long grass by next April? Frankly, even with the best will in tht world, I can’t see an army of 200,000 jobseekers litter picking and cleaning graffiti, can you!

    jj joop

    October 23, 2013 at 4:14 pm

  54. Will post in more detail, but there is some very bad news coming out for us lot in a few weeks time.

    Andrew Coates

    October 23, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    • Oh dear, I don’t like the sound of that. The Autumn statement is coming up soon: Wednesday 4 December. That’s when Osborne intends to announce more details of his Help to Work scheme.

      jj joop

      October 23, 2013 at 6:29 pm

      • WHEN YOU GO TO POAST UR BAD NOOZ STOREY MR COATES?? OR R U TOO BUSY SHAGGING UR YOUNGE IMMIGRANT WIFE?? WE R WATEING MR COATES!!

        a police officer

        October 23, 2013 at 10:21 pm

    • Can you not just leave the bad news 😦 to after Chrimbo, luv? 🙂

      Betty

      October 23, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    • VERY BAD NEWS MR COATES?? UR YOUNGE IMMIGRANT WIFE BRAKE A HEAL ON HER EXPENCIVE JIMMY CHOO SHOOS??

      a police officer

      October 23, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    • UR YOUNGE IMMIGRANT WIFE IS BEAN DEPORTID??

      a police officer

      October 23, 2013 at 8:17 pm

      • Welcome back WAYNE missed you terribly duckie.

        waynetta

        October 23, 2013 at 9:01 pm

    • IT’S PANIC TIME. Scotland’s Economy Is About To Go Kilts Up. GRANGEMOUTH Oil Revenues Down Independence Coming (?!) Government COULD run out of funds
      It of Course WILL be our fault

      net

      October 24, 2013 at 8:13 am

    • Come on Mr Coates, spill the beans as we are all dying to know ?

      gaia

      October 24, 2013 at 1:43 pm

    • Come now, surely you can give us some hints as to what this bad news is. My guess, perhaps some procedural bullsh*t at the JCP? Mandatory giving access to UJ accounts to Jobcentre advisors? Daily signings? 35 hour per week jobsearch for all? Or something else?

      Not knowing is the worst part.

      Samwise Gamgee

      October 24, 2013 at 10:05 pm

  55. WHEN U TELL US THE BAD NOOZ MR COATES?? OR R U BAD NOOZ FAKE?? ANOTHA FAKE SCAM TWO GET MOIR HITS OUR FAKE SITE AND MAIK MOIR MONEY?? WE ARE WATEING MR COATES!!

    a police officer

    October 23, 2013 at 10:56 pm

  56. U GOT UR REEDERS VERY WORRIED NOWE MR COATES!! WE R PANIKING BOUT THE VERY BAD NEWS!! WHEN U GOING TWO TELL?? WE R WATEING ME COATES!!

    a police officer

    October 23, 2013 at 10:58 pm

  57. WHY R WE WATEING, WHY R WE WATEING, WHY R WE WATEING MR COATES????

    a police officer

    October 23, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    • a police officer :
      WHY R WE WATEING, WHY R WE WATEING, WHY R WE WATEING MR COATES????

      Your spelling is like a 5 year old. Learn to spell before trolling on here, Shocking!!!

      marky

      October 24, 2013 at 6:07 pm

      • MARKY Don’t Worry He’ll Soon (A Police Officer That Is) Find Himself On A Literacy And Numeracy Course Set By His Provider. I Think Wayne Will Be With Him Too.

        Newsroom

        October 27, 2013 at 10:32 am

  58. Been demoted love Thought you were an inspektor or is it because you can’t spell.
    Wanyetta I am sure our friend here was SCARFACE in a previous life

    net

    October 24, 2013 at 8:15 am

  59. “Such proposals are aimed at creating a pool of cheap labour for big business. The “jobs” referred to would be heavily subsidised by the government to encourage companies to employ workers who would be paid well below the minimum wage. The consequences of this policy can already be seen with existing work placements paying as little as £2.65 an hour and stories of unemployed workers being compelled to work for free. Labour’s intention is to make such conditions the norm.”

    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/10/24/labo-o24.html

    Annos

    October 24, 2013 at 10:22 am

    • Ok, lets put this into prospective as it appears people are misguided on the subject of work for benefit as regards it being a way of hiring people below the national min.

      For a start as is clearly evident in the Universal credit, the government is tying together certain benefits, namely unemployment, housing and council tax relief amongst another few.
      Under UC claimants of any of these benefits must work for benefit and or jobsearch 35 hours a week (any of the mentioned benefits) unless they work over 35 hours and or fall into a certain category.

      So this being the case means unless you are ONLY drawing JSA or ESA that the claimants hourly rate will be based on their total draw of benefits. This means for a claimant to know what their being paid at hourly rate, that they MUST ADD ALL THEIR BENEFITS TOGETHER which as you know for most on benefit means their actually getting about national min while the others are either just over or under it.

      So yes its still slavery for a person only claiming one single benefit but not necessarily so in earnest for those claiming multiple benefits at the same time.

      For the record if you are one of these people claiming the total limit of £26’000 per year your hourly rate would be £14.28 an hour at 35 hours a week.

      Template example
      £6.31 x 35 = £220.85 (national minimum on a 35 hour week)

      JSA = £71.00
      Housing benefit = £100.00
      council tax relief = £20
      TOTAL = £191.00

      So £191 divided by 35 = £5.46 an hour meaning that this person is short of the nat min by 85p an hour

      Cruel but true im afraid.

      gaia

      October 24, 2013 at 2:14 pm

  60. Andrew Coates :
    Will post in more detail, but there is some very bad news coming out for us lot in a few weeks time.

    So tell us now. If it’s uncofirmed then say so as well.

    This is not a cool way to behave…assuming this isn’t a troll post or a hijacked account or something.

    ghost whistler

    October 24, 2013 at 1:29 pm

    • Too right, ghosty, ‘a police officer’ has got a point; this is not a ‘cool’ way to behave, you could even say this was a ‘cruel’ (maybe that what you wanted to say ghosty? 🙂 way to behave leaving us all worrying on tenterhooks keeping logging in to this blog to find out what the ‘very bad news’ is… maybe ‘a police officer’ has a another point.

      Spill the Beans

      October 24, 2013 at 3:47 pm

  61. Could have something to do with UC plus having too go from One JCP to Another to sign on

    ESJ40

    October 24, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    • The Claimant Commitment will replace JSAg before Xmas, according to my adviser who I spoke to earlier this week. And it will apparently be more intensive as well; the number of activities jobseekers have to do each will increase significantly – by about 50%. Job searches will be scrutinised more closely. For example, if you say you looked at a particular website and they didn’t have any vacancies in your area, the adviser will check that website when you sign to check to see if you’re telling the truth. She also advised me that Universal Credit won’t be rolled out until 2015, at the earliest.

      Breaking News

      October 24, 2013 at 4:28 pm

      • You mean 3015! and it will be run by IDS BOT!

        Obi Wan Kenobi

        October 24, 2013 at 4:54 pm

  62. Here we go, more juicy contracts for A4e, Seetec, Ingeus etc:

    http://refuted.org.uk/2013/10/24/workfarecompetition/

    JBS

    October 24, 2013 at 5:00 pm

  63. I can’t wait until IDS is either forced from office at the DWP or Labour win the next general election (same result). I can quite easily see IDS becoming mentally unhinged as the reality dawns that he will never be able to influence a benefit claimants future again, – padded cell time awaits that jerk.

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    October 24, 2013 at 5:05 pm

  64. “Now you know why Homeland Security purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition, enough ammunition to fight the Iraq war for 12 years, has its own para-military force and 2,700 tanks. If you think the “terrorist threat” in America warrants a domestic armed force of this size, you are out of your mind. This force has been assembled to deal with starving and homeless people in the streets of America.”

    http://paulcraigroberts.org/2013/10/23/ye-sow-shall-ye-reap-paul-craig-roberts/

    Annos

    October 24, 2013 at 7:02 pm

  65. I suspect Andrew Coates is suggesting the government might be thinking of introducing vouchers instead of actual money; and hence stripping people of all dignity, a simlilar policy employed in 1930’s Germany. What next? Labour camps?! I so hope I’m wrong.

    Essence of Scouse

    October 24, 2013 at 11:09 pm

  66. Reblogged this on Benefit tales.

    argotina1

    October 25, 2013 at 12:12 am

  67. :-))))))))

    An Overseer

    October 25, 2013 at 3:01 am

  68. TOILD U SO BUT U ALL LAFFED!! WHARE IS THE VERY VERY BAD NOOZ MR COATES?? MULTY-MILLONAIR FAKE WEBSITE OWNER ANDREW COATES IS PLAYEING US FOR FOOLS!!

    a police officer

    October 25, 2013 at 9:11 am

  69. WHERE IS FAKE ANDREW COATES NOW?? ON EXPEINCIVE HOLIDAY WITH YOUNGE IMMIGRANT WIFE LAFFING AT US FOOLS!!

    a police officer

    October 25, 2013 at 10:02 am

  70. HOW MUCHE YOU MAIKE MONI FROM UR FAKE SITE MR COATES?? TELL NOW!!

    a police officer

    October 25, 2013 at 10:06 am

  71. How Come A Police Officer Is As Bad At Spelling As Wayne And Police Inspektor ?. Is She As Ugly Too? ;0)

    Johnnyvoid

    October 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm

  72. maybe they hope the majestic twelve will get them out of doodoo

    Johnnyvoid

    October 26, 2013 at 3:08 pm

  73. Yes I is rolling in it.

    Anyway we iz getting sick of this joke.

    Andrew Coates

    October 26, 2013 at 3:10 pm

  74. rainbowwarriorlizzie

    October 26, 2013 at 5:46 pm

  75. my Guess is its the Cait Reilly appeal and the courts are going to rule in the Governments favour

    growls

    October 26, 2013 at 6:28 pm

    • Yep! were still waiting for the supreme court to give a ruling on that one, which is now overdue as this ruling was supposed to be made in the autumn.

      Tonight the clocks go back one hour which means by 2:00am sunday we will officially be back in winter again – so where’s this ruling then?

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      October 26, 2013 at 7:08 pm

  76. The Chancellor Will Be Making His Autumn Statement On DECEMBER 4th This Year Boys And Girls. Does This Mean With All The Freak Weather The Seasons HAVE Changed. Any Meteorologists Or Scientists Out There With Any Information….?

    Newsroom

    October 27, 2013 at 10:36 am

  77. Obi Wan Kenobi :
    Yep! were still waiting for the supreme court to give a ruling on that one, which is now overdue as this ruling was supposed to be made in the autumn.
    Tonight the clocks go back one hour which means by 2:00am sunday we will officially be back in winter again – so where’s this ruling then?

    This should answer your question.
    http://unemploymentmovement.com/forum/sheild/7381-reilly-vs-sos

    ed

    October 27, 2013 at 11:34 am

    • I hope they win, I really do. But I’m not holding my breath. I don’t think IDS would have entered into this thing without taking advice from some top people.

      jj joop

      October 27, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    • Thanks ED.

      A close eye will be kept on this.

      Obi Wan Kenobi

      October 28, 2013 at 9:47 am

      • OBI. Have you heard anymore about once UNIVERSAL CREDIT goes national. The act of logging on to UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH will be deemed as signing on- negating the need {?} of sigining at the Jobcentre.

        Philip

        October 28, 2013 at 10:39 am

  78. Philip :
    OBI. Have you heard anymore about once UNIVERSAL CREDIT goes national. The act of logging on to UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH will be deemed as signing on- negating the need {?} of sigining at the Jobcentre.

    That can not be true. what would happen to proof of job search if you have denied access to UJ. or do not have an account.

    ed

    October 28, 2013 at 10:58 am

    • Its actually not that far fetched and its not the UJ site but the gateway account but it is a proposal, not a fact. This aside benefits will eventually go totally computerised so signing on will be an online affair someday soon.

      Ive for a decade and a bit now looked into how technology helps the workplace and sadly it all went into the favour of the owner by increasing employee productivity while maintaining human overheads (wages). Businesses total drive is PROFIT and everyday people are replaced by ever emerging technology with some places totally run by a mixture of computers and robotics carrying literally a mere hand full of engineers and managers to ensure its running.

      This is why we need to regulate technology in the workplace yet todate not a single member of parliament has mentioned it despite the fact not only does it improve job creation opportunities and job security but also helps address some our issues with climate change and the reliance on fossil fuels in the workplace.

      gaia

      October 29, 2013 at 9:02 am

  79. Heres a recent piece proving my point on technology replacing people in the workplace.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24709101

    gaia

    October 29, 2013 at 9:16 am


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