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Audits for G4S and SERCO.

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The justice secretary is to allow two security companies to bid for Ministry of Justice contracts despite both facing alleged fraud investigations over existing deals.

Chris Grayling has not ruled Serco and G4S out of the running for new MoJ contracts, which include the £800m privatisation of most probation services.

But he has for the first time assured his Labour counterpart, Sadiq Khan, that no new contracts will be awarded to either company until a series of official “forensic audits” has given them a clean bill of health.

The official publication of invitations to bid for the privatisation of the bulk of the probation service is due soon. Both companies are leading contenders for the payment-by-results contracts under which 235,000 offenders are to be supervised each year. City analysts see few other large-scale players able or willing to bid for the work if Serco and G4S are excluded. Guardian.

It’s worth noting that the gang running SERCO delivers two Work Programme contracts on behalf of the Department for Work and Pensions in:

  • Coventry and Warwickshire, Staffordshire and The Marches; and
  • South Yorkshire.

The chancers running G4S supply security staff for Job Centres.

These are the people now delivering ‘public’ services.

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Written by Andrew Coates

September 18, 2013 at 3:08 pm

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  1. Smack me on the head if you like but its always the same companies getting these contracts so unless your as big, you just know 9 times out of ten that they will still get it.

    This time though it will be harder to hide if the crime figures spike, oh, hold on a minute , yes its just come in, their going to blame labour.

    gaia

    September 18, 2013 at 3:57 pm

  2. Oh just noticed this on the bottom of the post

    The chancers running G4S supply security staff for Job Centres.

    So that’s what they do, I thought they were their to create shade for the advisors while they chat to me. I personally don’t see the point of them as todate only one of them has ever thought of placing a finger on me but soon stopped when I reminded him that reasonable force is a two way street. Its quite funny really as he turned into a DWP advisor and muttered rather softly, you better leave or I will call the police, what was funny was that I was already leaving and that it was him preventing me from leaving, its not even like I did anything wrong as regards DWP, they hadn’t asked him to intercede so I don’t know why unless its because when I walked in earlier and laughingly said “what do you stop, colds and traffic”, seriously he looked so old and out of shape it must be a miracle he even makes it into work on time.

    Security staff I like that, that’s funny.

    gaia

    September 18, 2013 at 4:15 pm

  3. This is worth nothing – in a general way – about what’s happening in Holland,

    “King Willem-Alexander delivered a message to the Dutch people from the government in a nationally televised address: the welfare state of the 20th century is gone.

    In its place a “participation society” is emerging, in which people must take responsibility for their own future and create their own social and financial safety nets, with less help from the national government.

    The king traveled past waving fans in an ornate horse-drawn carriage to the 13th-century Hall of Knights in The Hague for the monarch’s traditional annual address on the day the government presents its budget for the coming year. It was Willem-Alexander’s first appearance on the national stage since former Queen Beatrix abdicated in April and he ascended to the throne.

    “The shift to a ‘participation society’ is especially visible in social security and long-term care,” the king said, reading out to lawmakers a speech written for him by Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s government.

    “The classic welfare state of the second half of the 20th century in these areas in particular brought forth arrangements that are unsustainable in their current form.”

    Rutte may be hoping that the pomp and ceremony surrounding the king and his popular wife, Queen Maxima, will provide a diversion from the gloomy reality of a budget full of unpopular new spending cuts he revealed later in the day. “]

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-king-willemalexander-declares-the-end-of-the-welfare-state-8822421.html

    Andrew Coates

    September 19, 2013 at 10:02 am

    • A very interesting story Andrew, thanks for locating and posting it.

      Its been a while since I’ve been to Holland but I’m hardly surprised their in trouble what with nolonger being the leaders in green technology not to mention destroying their tourist trade by not renewing leases for their red light areas regardless of size and lets not forget its iilegal their now to sell cannabis to tourists from coffee shops, the two main reasons tourists go their in the first place.

      Its a sham as its really nice out their, the people are kind and warm and I was amazed how at the time litter was near non existent.

      gaia

      September 19, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    • Andrew Coates,

      Thanks for that link, here is another.

      “Atos, KPMG and the NHS. Be afraid. Be very afraid”

      http://dpac.uk.net/2013/09/atos-kpmg-and-the-nhs-be-afraid-be-very-afraid/#comment-20363

      Annos

      September 19, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    • “In its place a “participation society” is emerging, in which people must take responsibility for their own future and create their own social and financial safety nets, with less help from the national government.” ,the logical and ultimate outcome of this is why will we need any governments at all,why stop at financial and security arrangements,the more people do by themselves the less point there will be for Governments,vote for them for what,pay for them for what?What they will they be able to promise to do if they are doing less and less?

      ck

      September 20, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    • That’s a deep and sad story but that’s exactly how they behave.

      Had this Herbert had said it in a police station they would have laughed at him and then shown him the door and why, because they know talk when they see it.

      Sadly and im sure officers are aware, that DWP is using them to win a non criminal argument.
      Take abuse for instance, what DWP call abuse is laughable, as they cited it for me recently yet still to this very date cant or should I say wont tell me what actually constitutes the very accusation. I swear they just make crap up as they go along which I know as that’s why I always even this case insist if that’s what they believe then they must report it to the police their and then, let the correct authority deal with it. Of course they don’t as they know even if I was arrested (I wasn’t, they refused to call the police) that no charge whats so ever will come from it as under the definition of law what DWP states does not constitute as abuse and so would arm me with something they would have to apologise for, especially as its defamation of character not to mention a couple of other suable civil offences.

      In this Herberts case sadly the police had no choice but had he recorded what he had said that lead to their arrival then he would have never ended up in a back of police van let alone a trip to the station if and only if his mental condition was not known or that he had no previous convictions of a related nature (wont explain as it will take to long).

      Ive said, others have said, but as yet far to many claimants DONT record their meetings at DWP, WHICH AS LONG AS THEY DO will constantly leave them open to this kind of ABUSE by DWP. We need I feel a positive drive to get all claimants onboard.

      Now I did hear from one member to this site that DWP claim YOU CANT RECORD BECAUSE IT INFRINGES ON OTHER PEOPLES (CLAIMANTS) DPA RIGHTS. Well without having to look at the law YOU CAN GUESS THATS BULL but the thing is, is to play along with it, start canvassing claimants outside of DWP but not on their property so as all claimants can see the truth which when they do will happily give any other claimant the necessary right under DPA to record and THUS TAKING AWAY DWPs rather flimsy get out excuse as the recordings after all have absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH FELLOW CLAIMANTS PERSONAL AND SENSITIVE DATA. Its not hard to setup, you just ring the police to notify them of what your going to do and that you will in no way block or imped the highway including pavements and bobs your uncle its all legal and above board so when DWP ring their be crap out of luck. I know this is true as I have personally done it myself so know it works and deeply annoys DWP who can only watch on in helpless anger.

      Activists I would imagine already know this.

      WE ALL NEED TO MAKE DWP ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVEY SENTANCE, EVERY WORD, EVERY LETTER.

      gaia

      September 20, 2013 at 11:19 am

  4. Some will say HOW IS A SANCTION FAIR well lets pause for thought shall we.

    A convicted criminal be it for FRAUD, ABUSE, ETC gets a warm and lit cell, so they get a free roof, heat and electricity. They also get THREE SQUARE MEALS A DAY and on Sundays usually get all the food they can swallow and carry (weekly prison kitchen clean out).
    PRISONERS DO NOT HAVE TO WORK TO GET THIS, THIS IS THEIR BASIC RIGHT UNDER LAW NO MATTER HOW THEY BEHAVE.

    A claimant how despite being sanctioned HASNT COMMITTED any criminal offence and is of no danger to the public gets squat, and is legally allowed to starve, become homeless, you get the picture.

    So as you can see a criminal who has harmed another be it physical and or material gets way more than a law abiding citizen who just happens to be unemployed and say didn’t do enough that week probably to produce evidence of a jobsearch (hardly criminal yes).

    •Sending one person to prison for one year £37,500
    •Sending one person to a young offenders’ institution for one year £42,000

    http://rethinking.org.uk/facts/rethink/cost.html

    A JSA claimant gets £71 a week or if we take the benefit limit if and only if they claim other benefits £350 a week.
    A con effectively gets £721 a week if an adult while youth get £807 a week

    That’s over 10 times that which a ONLY JSA claimant gets and can be sanctioned for or over a 100% greater than a claimant claiming the benefit limit.

    As lunatic as it sounds its actually more financially viable for a unemployed person to go to prison to live while searching for work than it is to claim benefits.

    So is it FAIR, I don’t think so and I haven’t even began to state the rest.

    gaia

    September 20, 2013 at 11:50 am

  5. Oh incase any unknowning people are reading the above post, don’t expect this to get sanctions banned as just like you the claimant suffers because GOVERNMENT CANT MAKE WORK PAY, they will simply make cons suffer just so they can MAKE YOU CONTINUE TO PAY, get it?

    gaia

    September 20, 2013 at 11:57 am

  6. Do you know what gaia. You’re absolutely right in every respect. I think I would be better off in prison. No JCP. No worries. Just a warm room and three square meals a day. Does it get any sweeter.

    jj joop

    September 20, 2013 at 12:07 pm

    • No smoking in prison now.

      They can’t wait to punish you even more!

      Andrew Coates

      September 20, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    • “The bill would also force food stamp recipients without children to work, train or volunteer for at least 20 hours per week to continue receiving assistance. This would make food stamp recipients the equivalent of indentured servants, forced to work for free in order to eat.”

      http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/21/food-s21.html

      Annos

      September 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm

  7. Now i don’t know how knowledgeable you are on what really goes on in UK jails which is entirely different to public and government perception and for very good reasons but i doubt this rule is ridged or unaccommodated for in the prison system.

    The public only see what their allowed to so they never see a con absolutely destroying screws left right and centre like wind through a tissue or groups of cons banding together to over throw an entire wing and on occasion a whole jail (that you do see) so don’t understand that screws and even the governor must form a relationship with cons as believe me that thick steel meshed concrete and solid metal doors don’t contain all cons, i kid you not.

    The current law

    Smoking in smokefree premises or work vehicles: a fixed penalty notice of £50 (reduced to £30 if paid in 15 days) imposed on the person smoking. Or a maximum fine of £200 if prosecuted and convicted by a court. Tell me how do you get this from a con who has no money who through their solicitor will get it to run concurrent with their original sentence, answer another massive waste of the tax payers money and the con wins again.

    Their in their because the refuse to obey the law so are hardly likely to care about a smoking one. This said as you cant get insurance if you don’t instigate the rule its a common practice for governors and screws to barter with cons as without it we would have many many fatalities on both sides like you see in foreign jails abroad, i can tell you as prison staff are after all grossly out numbered and this will be ever more evident if super max structures are allowed to be built.

    Also remember if we are debating it logically how many people do you personal know who have contracted smoking related cancer from second hand smoke and if so as its not sudden do you establish who exactly did the dirty deed or at all it was as a result of a cigarette?

    Yet again its to hard for them to prove so blanket cover law as usual.

    This said even as a smoker myself i quite like the rule as it helps me smoke less so on a personal level i cant really complain to tough but as always don’t wish to oppress others so do what you want in my eyes as regards this topic.

    Ok im off as its the weekend so i hope you all have a good one (no pun intended if you have recently been or are currently sanctioned) and i will leave with as windmill1 puts its FOOD FOR THOUGHT

    LAWS ARE ONLY PURPOSIVE UNTILL REALITY SETS IN.

    gaia

    September 20, 2013 at 6:24 pm

  8. Crap, sorry people i forgot the link to the smoking law

    http://www.smokefreeengland.co.uk/what-do-i-do/quick-guide.html

    Sorry i screwed up.

    gaia

    September 20, 2013 at 6:26 pm

  9. The stupidity of job centre staff knows know bounds,theres good example of this here.

    http://mikesivier.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/dwp-brings-in-hit-squad-as-benefit-sanctions-rocket/

    like many on these programmes i found myself parked for two years’ and now targeted by “hit squads”,the squads’ are equally inept as front line job centre staff,one going on to say that my benefit can be affected if i dont apply for these jobs’,she went on to say there’s loads on here.(all being agencies) these jobs i had already applied for earlier if she’d gone into it further or had been on the system for some time,without making ridiculous remarks’.

    none of this is fit for the purpose,the work programme is a farce,the job centre are obsessed with technology that people can simply leave a box unticked blocking access,if they have access at all.employers that are not viewing applications sent let alone provide feedback on jobmatch.

    if the work programme wrote me off,whats followed has left hope yet.

    ken

    September 21, 2013 at 7:07 am

  10. OFF TOPIC BUT

    ATOS MEDICALS FOR IPSWICH….BEING SENT TO COLCHESTER

    intheknow number 2

    September 21, 2013 at 8:09 am

    • Which costs a fair bit of money to travel to, not to mention inconvenience, and, how far is the office from the station?

      Andrew Coates

      September 21, 2013 at 3:38 pm

      • I have had a look at the map on Google. It’s about 1 mile. It’s near to the barracks. If you get a train from Ipswich to Colchester, you may have too change at Colchester for Colchester Town. Don’t forget to add time for changing trains and any delays

        Journeyman

        September 22, 2013 at 10:44 am

  11. Universal Jobwank will be unavailable Saturday 21 September from 5am to 12:15pm.

    Who gives a damn! I’ll gladly wank somewhere else for 7 hours.

    https://www.gov.uk/jobsearch

    Obi Wan Kenobi

    September 21, 2013 at 9:19 am

  12. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

    Have a look at the following link which includes a copy of someone’s Jobseeker’s Agreement that clearly says “no written jobsearch activity acceptable: either give access for DWP to view your account in ‘Profile’, otherwise prints are required of the ‘Application History’ and the ‘Activity History’ pages at each intervention”:

    http://skwalker1964.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/yet-more-dwp-illegality/

    How much longer are Jobcentre personnel going to get away with this outrageous illegal advising?

    It has already been made perfectly clear on this site that Jobcentre personnel cannot force anyone to give access to their Universal Jobmatch account, nor can Jobcentre personnel specify to a claimant how they provide the DWP with records of their jobsearch activity. This subject should now be in the national news media.

    Ignorance is strength, right enough.

    Tobanem

    September 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm

  13. “Catherine Austin Fitts was interviewed on The Power Hour on August 29, 2013. She asserted that we are in transition between the Old Economy and the New Economy, which are parallel worlds so to speak. The New Economy will seize the assets of the Old Economy while casting off all its liabilities. Examples of this are cities that are declaring bankruptcy where billions of dollars in the pensions of the retired public employees are being eliminated, freeing the Elite to take over the unburdened assets of the municipalities by starting anew.

    Fitts believes this is a planned agenda by the Elite that has been in effect since 2001. The Elite in any major financial crisis will come out on top and not suffer serious consequences such as what happened in the meltdown of the economy in 2008, which was a goal of the Elite’s agenda.

    It would appear from her argument that the primary goal of the Elite is to bring about The Great Default, probably sooner than later. This way they can engineer the elimination of all liabilities from the Old Economy, such as social security, and begin anew with the New Economy that will be under their total control and to their exclusive benefit.

    So The Great Default in inevitable if for no other reason than the Elite see it as a way to achieve their agenda.”

    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=aa8d242dc7bb733c4e72e04f24d32874&showtopic=20431

    Annos

    September 21, 2013 at 4:45 pm

  14. WELCOME TO THE MICKEY-MOUSE WORLD OF WORK

    http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-5361-A-real-life-story-of-exploitation

    With sufficient numbers of full-time jobs becoming a relic of the past, we now have dubious agency jobs mixed-in to the existing culture of part-time zero hours contacts – and this endless nightmare for Jobseeker’s is itself running alongside the toxic sanctions regime in force at Jobcentres!

    Tobanem

    September 23, 2013 at 9:07 am

  15. FAO “Annos”

    Your post on the Great Default is interesting.

    I wonder if there is a parallel with what happened in this country when council housing stock was transferred to Housing Associations – with all the huge debts run up by the bungling inefficiency of the old Council repairs department being written off as part of the deal?

    Tobanem

    September 23, 2013 at 10:22 am

  16. Now it is apparently CV blunders that fail to get Jobseekers a job:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24201307

    I can’t help think it is the vast absence of real jobs that stop Jobseekers getting a job!

    Tobanem

    September 23, 2013 at 10:39 am

    • CV blunders my arse, most jobseekers have already had to endure endless turd polishing CV courses,that makes up the bulk of the “training” that the jobcentre and Work Programme offers and people who have finished their two year stint on the Work Programme will have to endure more CV writing courses AGAIN. It is complete BS.

      ck

      September 23, 2013 at 2:01 pm

      • “turd polishing CV courses” : I couldn’t have put it better myself. I’m due to finish the wp shortly. When I first started, we had an induction morning; two hours basically, and that was it. Now the newbies have to come in two days a week for the the first thirteen weeks of the wp. And turd polishing CV courses are what they have to do during these two day soirees. It’s enough to make you spit!

        jj joop

        September 23, 2013 at 6:34 pm

      • And to add insult to injury, people are being paid good cash money to spout this BS, and it is BS.

        jj joop

        September 23, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    • What I find funny about this career service rant is, is most peoples CVs are done by other people who merely take a template off the net and case in point is the time honoured cliché of “Hard working and reliable”.

      Yes its true, you cant really have a generic CV but their again its also true you cant teach someone how to build a CV in just one day with crap like BUZZ WORDS and BE POSITIVES. As for spelling mistakes, even big businesses and government are guilty of that in their everyday letters.

      Ive been made to go to these CV jobclubs and often found I was having to correct the tutor (note not teacher as then they would have to have a teaching qualification along with another in English) only to find they in return would try and get me sanctioned on account of having their precious reputation for ever darkened. To be honest I have yet to meet one single tutor in CVs that knew what they were talking about (not saying their isn’t any).

      Even the article and proposed theorem by the career services is wrong as what comes before a CV, yes you guessed it a cover letter so if an individual cant create a CV then they sure as hell wont be able to construct a cover letter either as one acts as the preverbal dangling of the carrot to the other (ie a cover letter gets them to read the CV, the CV gets them to interview you).

      In short your cover letter and CV act as an advert so you know from watching TV that if you aren’t engaged in the first 5 seconds then the advert has failed.

      What as usual services like careers for instance fail to cover is the person reading them. For starters this manager will probably have around 100 or so covers and CVs to go through so will adopt a filtering system tailored to their personal likes and dislikes that for all intents and purposes will have nothing to do with the job at hand.

      I know a certain company who use a software program to filter email covers and CVs, that bins any that have spelling mistakes, improper constructs and specific BUZZ WORDS to name but a few inbuilt features and I know this to be true as Im the one who built and created it for the client. For the record the client wanted it so they wouldn’t have to waste time doing it manually.

      Theirs no legal requirement from the applicants perspective to supply a cover, CV or application form, the only legal requirements are on the company for example tax purposes or immigration to name a few and that does not apply until your actually hired so its merely an unsaid non statutory practice along with drug and alcohol testing prior to an appointment, ECS and CSCS cards to name but two more non statutory practices openly but wrongly demanded by todays businesses.

      At the end of the day your cover letter and or CV is an advert and the potential employer is either interested in the product (you) or not much the same way you the public view adverts on TV.

      gaia

      September 26, 2013 at 9:04 am

      • Get your thesaurus dictionary out people, give your advisors the biggest ugliest words (Latin is also acceptable) in context you can find as it will take them more than the price of that interview to work out what you have said in your CV, I can tell you.

        Word play as well, take for instance this recent UKIP incident, if your a cleaner refer to untidy as sluttish behaviour, pull out all the old English grammar (if its in context, its correctly used) and hit them with it as it will make their life hell.

        I cant make work pay but I can make JCP and any stupid enough to join their misinformed and ineffectual band wagon PAY.

        gaia

        September 26, 2013 at 9:52 am

      • I think my CV should be available in Hittite, in cuneiform on a clay tablet.

        Andrew Coates

        September 26, 2013 at 10:46 am

      • I beg to differ. I applied for a job as an Etruscan soldier, so the Etruscan came in real useful like. As we all know you have to apply for anything these days.

        Windmill1

        September 26, 2013 at 3:11 pm

      • New topic. I am required to attend a “Job Fair” at the Jobcentre tomorrow, suited and booted, on pain of death according to the letter. Any ideas, anyone?

        Windmill1

        September 26, 2013 at 3:31 pm

  17. Too jj joop. CV ” turd polishing soirees” priceless! Even I have a social life. It is just the dry cleaning bills.

    Windmill1

    September 24, 2013 at 7:30 pm

  18. ps I am glad I joined this site

    Windmill1

    September 24, 2013 at 7:37 pm

    • So am I, mate, so am I. I can let off steam in the company of like minded people.

      jj joop

      September 25, 2013 at 8:34 am

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        Andrew Coates

        September 25, 2013 at 1:05 pm

  19. I response to Obi Wan Kenobi, re Universal Jobwank. We may have a claim in law for repetitive strain injury. Contact injury lawyers 4 U?

    Windmill1

    September 25, 2013 at 1:54 pm

  20. ps Why not ask Wayne?

    Windmill1

    September 25, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    • Wayne no longer exists. He has Morphed into “a police officer” , and an immigrant-hating one at that (oh Wayne, what have you done!). I have bought a sovereign ring in memory of you, so that every time my dainty pinkies tap the keyboard, I can look down and remember you. And the good times we had.

      RIP Wayne (formerly The Helping Hand)

      September 25, 2013 at 6:36 pm

      • I take it you do wear a sovereign ring. Here’s a link just for you, my pretty.

        http://www.chav-scum.co.uk/

        RIP Wayne (formerly The Helping Hand)

        September 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm

  21. Here’s how to spot “a Wayne”.

    http://www.chavprotesters.8k.com/

    RIP Wayne (formerly The Helping Hand)

    September 25, 2013 at 6:53 pm

  22. Do not be to critical, he is an entrepreneur now (the Jobcentre would be so pleased) having turned what was originally just an adolescent hobby into a full time career.

    Windmill1

    September 25, 2013 at 9:00 pm

  23. ps Are “Chavs R Us Plc” quoted on the FTSE 100?

    Windmill1

    September 25, 2013 at 9:03 pm

  24. Andrew Coates :
    I think my CV should be available in Hittite, in cuneiform on a clay tablet.

    nice one Andrew

    gaia

    September 27, 2013 at 9:23 am

  25. G4S IS LINKED WITH GOLDMAN SACHS

    THE BIGGEST SHAREHOLDER OF G4S IS TWEEDY, BROWNE. http://investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-major.html?t=GFSZF
    ” In 1997 Tweedy, Browne was purchased by the holding company Affiliated Managers Group for $300 million. ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweedy,_Browne
    ” Sean M. Healey was appointed chairman [of Affiliated Managers Group] in October 2010, served as president and CEO since May 2001 and in other senior management positions since 1995………..
    Prior to joining AMG Healey was a vice president in the Mergers and Acquisitions Department at Goldman, Sachs & Co. ” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliated_Managers_Group

    AND WHO CONTROLS GOLDMAN SACHS ?

    GOLDMAN SACHS IS CONNECTED WITH WARREN BUFFET A FRIEND OF JACOB ROTHSCHILD AND EVELYN DE ROTHSCHILD.
    Lord JACOB ROTHSCHILD “Hosted the European Economic Round Table conference in 2002 at Waddesdon Manor, attended by such figures as James Wolfensohn, Nicky Oppenheimer, Warren Buffet, and Arnold Schwarzenegger ” https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations/introduction/PEHI_Jacob_de_Rothschild_bio.htm https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/organisations/introduction/PEHI_Evelyn_de_Rothschild_bio.htm
    Warren Buffet, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, ” agreed to purchase $5 billion in Goldman’s preferred stock “.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldman_Sachs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway
    GOLDMAN SACHS IS CONNECTED ALSO WITH THE EDMOND DE ROTHSCHILD. http://uk.linkedin.com/in/ruperttipler http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Christoph-Ladanyi/23971288
    THE EDMOND DE ROTHSCHILD IS OWNED BY BENJAMIN DE ROTHSCHILD ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_de_Rothschild ) AND BY HIS WIFE ARIANE DE ROTHSCHILD
    ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_de_Rothschild ) http://www.lejdd.fr/Economie/Images/Les-plus-grosses-fortunes-de-France/Benjamin-de-Rothschild-206941
    http://wikimapia.org/6825620/fr/Chateau-de-Pregny http://www.panoramio.com/photo/77169200 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waddesdon http://www.waddesdon.org.uk/ http://www.thefullwiki.org/Waddesdon_Manor http://www.thefullwiki.org/Ascott_House http://www.breathingenglishair.blogspot.fr/2012/04/ascott-house-buckinghamshire.html

    bar

    November 13, 2013 at 10:34 am


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