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Housing Benefit for Under 25s to be Cut and Large Workless Familes Punished.

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Inside Housing reports,

Chancellor George Osborne yesterday told the Conservative Party conference he wants to cut £10 billion from the welfare bill by the first year of the next parliament, on top of reductions that are already planned.

He suggested a move to cut housing benefit for ‘young people who have never worked’ could be a key part of the reforms. Some vulnerable groups such as care leavers or people fleeing domestic violence are expected to be exempt from any cut.

Ending housing benefit for under 25s would result in savings worth less than a fifth of the government’s intended £10 billion reduction in welfare spending.

There are 383,650 households aged under 25 on housing benefit in Britain. If this was removed entirely it would save £1.88 billion.

Chancellor George Osborne yesterday told the Conservative Party conference he wants to cut £10 billion from the welfare bill by the first year of the next parliament, on top of reductions that are already planned.

Grainia Long, chief executive of the CIH, said cutting housing benefit for under 25s would hinder economic growth.

‘It is impossible to create economic growth without a mobile workforce,’ she said.

Work and pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith did not mention the plans to cut housing benefit for young people in his speech to the conference yesterday, despite writing about them in an article jointly authored by Mr Osborne that appeared in the Daily Mail.

He told delegates: ‘George Osborne and I recognise… we will have to make further savings in the welfare budget, but as we save we are agreed we must relentlessly focus on what we do on transforming lives.’

He also said welfare claimants will lose benefits for failing to seek work, and gave details of the new sanctions regime under universal credit.

Claimants will lose three months of benefit for the first offence of not seeking work, six months for the second offence and three years for the third. ‘Gone are the days when doing nothing was a long term option,’ he said.

There was a ‘debate’ on Channel Four last night about this.

Jon Snow kept interrupting the young woman who’d been in care on Housing Benefits.

The only clear message you got was that the Liberal-Tory government intends to go through with these plans.

This is what the Mail article said,

Their most controversial suggestion is that unemployed parents could be deprived of extra support if they have another child. Treasury sources said child benefit, income support or tax credits could be withheld, putting the jobless in the same position as struggling working parents who simply cannot afford to have larger families.

In another move, housing benefit could be removed from 380,000 people under 25, meaning they must join the growing number of young working adults who still live with their parents into their late 20s and 30s. The reform would save £1.8 billion.

Words are not enough to express the outrage that these ‘proposals’ create.

So, more homeless young people, and more families begging for food parcels.

That’s the Big Society.

Pitiful it certainly is.

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  1. First they hit under 25’s with the education its now he cNts to make them all homeless its a piss take the poor should be ashamed

    paul wells

    October 9, 2012 at 12:42 pm

  2. If Tories are going to create a society where our young can’t afford an higher education and being twenty five get No housing benefit how the hell are we when present-day doctors lowyers policemen plumbers you get the picture retire we will have nobody to replace them as the young won’t be educated and won’t have a home thick Tories get them out before they ruin Britain for ever

    paul wells

    October 9, 2012 at 2:52 pm

  3. I saw part of Osborne’s speech last night. I thought what country is this? I saw a different bit so didn’t know about this bit. This some far right mad country? Then the sound came back on and I realised it is THIS country. Hadn’t seen what Osborne looked like before.

    If you can’t live with your family, don’t get on or they kicked you out… If they were forced to downsize by more of the government cuts, they might not have a room for you. What if you graduate and can’t find a job? Or get a disability and your parents’ house is unsuitable for you to live in? And if they can’t afford to move to ‘accessible’ housing? Or they are struggling to put your brothers and sisters through college, or looking after grandkids? Maybe your room is no good to live in because it is lived in by your sibling’s family who are themselves unable to get their own home (or are looking after your parents); or your grandparent with disabilities/dementia/cancer needs it and your parents are their carer. Maybe your parents took the government at their word when they said things like ‘get on your bike’, ‘be enterprising’ and so on, and have started up their own business working from home and your old room is their office. Or, what if you get on with your family but they can’t afford to feed and look after you, not in the economic climate and not if you can’t even give your benefits towards your keep. Or they have other financial commitments like mortgages, healthcare, or helping another relative buy a house. If a woman fleeing an arranged marriage is under 25 how can she get a place to live if she can’t get housing benefit? Is she to be sent back to her family who might force the marriage (i.e. rape) to go ahead (yes arranged marriages happen to men too), either in the UK or abroad? To be her family’s slave? To be the victim of more abuse till age 25? (This applies in any situation of any young person being harmed.) There is more potential for abuse if the person is disabled or has learning difficulties or mental health issues, or is illiterate. If again you get on well with your family, a parent might be ill and need specialist care from a live-in medical carer, who needs your room.

    Record this speech and play it back any time in the future you should find the need to make yourself physically sick.

    I used to think Osborne was ‘just another suit’. Now having actually seen (part of – I switched onto a thing about sewer workers to take away the overwhelming nausea generated by watching Osborne) one of his speeches, I know better. All that is missing is an armband with, I think you can guess what symbol on it.

    Of course if your family is called ‘too big’ by the government and you are 20 with a parent/s
    aged 40, often you will be unable (even if willing) to move in with your parents because…
    a) The government caps on benefits and house size will force their eviction to a tiny place where there is no room for you. b) Their landlord might not allow you to move in or even visit. c) If your parents are in their 60s they might be in the process of having to sell their only house to pay for their own care or their parents’ care.

    If you are only ‘allowed’ home if you ‘change your religion’ or ‘change your sexual orientation’, for example, the government are enabling abuse of (financially at least) ‘vulnerable adults’. If you moved in aged 20-25 you could be stuck there into your 40s.
    Some people kill themselves because their family is so horrible to them. Some kill EACHOTHER. Nuclear families or some (heterosexual-based) version of it cannot be engineered by this cruel policy. We also are supposed to be in the 21st century. The thing about making universal credit payable to the ‘head of household’ – that is 19th century family dynamics they want to bring back.

    Next they might as well ban women from wearing trousers, make us all wear hats in public, make the poor go in separate toilets, and make compulsory daily church for everyone (or possibly compulsory prayers at work). Why not bring back wife beating, wife selling, homes for unmarried mothers, workhouses, orphanages, child labour in factories, and all those lovely Victorian diseases? Yeah, public hangings of kids who steal a sweet or a pencil! Transportation for looking the wrong way at a rich person? Flogging if you say anything against God, maybe? Or that really lucrative business the Triangular Trade, that ought to come back too, if you want to follow his way of thinking. Or if you can’t bring back full scale slavery, how about freeing up housing by making a ban on any ‘non British ethnicity’ person owning property? Only married 25+ heterosexual ablebodied Christian couples can get benefits and not if they are infertile or have a disabled child.
    (Oh gods…. I may be giving Osborne’s bunch IDEAS! I’ll stop now…)

    Last night (the other bit of the speech I saw) my main thought was that this man should have his OXYGEN ration sanctioned for 3 years.

    Mitt Romney made a similar speech at the same time. Are we sure they are not related?

    something survived...

    October 9, 2012 at 4:39 pm

  4. Don’t forget the toughening up of the benefits sanctions regime, as announced with relish by Iain Scumbag-Smith – 3 months, 6 months, then 3 years! 3 years without benefits. People will die because of this…

    Sir Scab

    October 9, 2012 at 5:35 pm

  5. The fox is in charge of the henhouse.

    Tobanem

    October 10, 2012 at 7:59 am

    • No – the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

      Gissajob

      October 10, 2012 at 9:57 am

      • Dracula in charge of a blood bank.

        Andrew Coates

        October 10, 2012 at 9:58 am

  6. It won’t be long before Britain’s poor are reduced to the same dire state of penury that’s being inflicted on the unemployed/elderly/disabled in Spain and Greece.

    Time to fight back before we suffer the same fate!

    Trevor

    October 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    • Greece was the test bed, the dry run. And us Greeks FOUGHT back and fought HARD and we STILL got SCREWED. So what chance do you moaning Brits have. None. You are all GOING DOWN and going down HARD. Good luck! 🙂

      Adrienne

      October 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    • You Brits are one of the most oppressed and surveilled people on the planet – you just don’t realise it. You have NO right to PROTEST. The Government knows exactly what you are THINKING! They KNOW you NEXT MOVE and can EASILY OUT MANOEUVRE you. You try stepping outside of that LITTLE BOX of yours and see how long it is before the “AUTHORITIES” come knocking. You will be in a prison, mental hospital or dead before you even realise it. If the GOVERNMENT told you you would all sheepishly get on TRAINS to the PROMISED LAND. Your Government can do ANYTHING to you BRITS and you will take it LYING DOWN. Adrieene xx

      Adrienne

      October 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm

  7. Did you know that yesterday, Wednesday, 10 October, was “World Homeless Day”?

    Have a look at the following link:

    http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/17144

    The Salvation Army is one of many assorted church groups engaged in this ecumenical endeavour – despite their continued involvement with Workfare.

    I wonder if the Salvation Army will be out marching next week, Thursday, 18 October, also known as “Anti Slavery Day” – whilst still involved in forced labour Workfare schemes.

    Tobanem

    October 11, 2012 at 8:52 am

  8. Meanwhile, here is some more news on ATOS, after it was announced that private company ATOS are to sub-contract part of their work on assessments for the new Personal Independence Payment back to the PUBLIC sector – a development which will result in ATOS being paid for doing nothing!

    Someone has already drawn comparisons with the Work Programme!

    Here is the story and comments:

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/government-pressed-for-answers-over-238m-1372151

    Tobanem

    October 11, 2012 at 9:09 am

  9. Nothing surprises me from this government, can we as humanbeings look ourselves in the mirror and advocate the evil and twsited policies the tories are webbing this country into?, the reality is we need to vote them out but i fear we cannot wait until the next election, by that time this country will be an elitist rich peoples playground where the persecution of the poor and mentally and physically disabled are treated not unlike in some respects to the Nazi’s persecution of the jewish race, that started out with party policies, that may be a strong example to use and whilst it may not lead to the same scenarios.. it’s the slow eroding of peoples human rights and the democracy of this country for those who are not rich. There is so much propaganda coming from the Tories it’s like stepping back through the decades instead of moving forward.

    We have a government in power who did not get there under the democratic voting system this country provides, Cameron is there by default with an appendage of a second party who would otherwise never have tasted power, this is just not acceptable in a democratic country and if there is any lesson to be learnt… for gods sake people PLEASE GO AND VOTE! if you are disabled or housebound ORGANIZE YOUR POSTAL VOTING!, do not sit and think your vote does not matter because this is the result if you 1. Don’t vote or 2. Vote tactically because you feel the place you live will always be dominated by one specific party, IT WILL never change or be retained if you don’t use your democratic right to vote!.

    The weakness of the Tories are clearly many of their insane policies but the biggest one of all is the Liberal Democrats as coalition partners, before i go any further i am not a dyed in the wool Labour supporter either because i know all paties have their good and bad points, and the saying “Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t” is wrong in this case, we must send cameron and his cronies which make up pretty much all the tory party back to hell from where this lot came from. The crumbling of the coalition will happen but the people of the country can make it happen sooner so at the very least we have a proper democratically voted in government and not cameron and his cronies who never even got a majority, the reality is we need that in this country.. not some squabbling coalition with a depleted opposition.. the Lib-Dems have been so compromised i doubt if they will ever recover from this time when they are eventually back on the other side of the house as opposition.

    If you want to see a fresh election you must not only look at the insane policies that come into the heads of the tories, you must also look at the Lib-dems and the wets, there are many who do not like the direction we are heading and would like a greater voice… as voters we have the greatest vote of all and even that very democratic right we see Cameron trying to load the dice to his favour with merging voting boundaries..marginals merging will create greater chance of the tories being in power for decades to come!, that is just one area.. there are many more examples…so We need to destabalize this coalition, make it implode and induce a new election where THIS TIME! people will see what happens if they don’t vote or vote tactically.. be true to yourself, this is our country.. we did not fight two world wars to see it flushed down a Jewel-encrusted toilet of the excessively greedy rich and privileged. This pain can end way before the next election, you must ask yourselves.. can this country last that long?.. NHS being stripped down, The welfare state being systematically destroyed, Jobs being lost in gigantic numbers.. often the public sector, homes and rents becoming unaffordable and slum living returning once more like a trip back to the dark ages. It’s not about Rhetoric it’s about people… humanity, compassion and knowing who deserves and who does not because they are already okay… there is much more but it cannot be said here.

    Spangle

    October 11, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    • Well Spangle! Whilst I’d not disagree with any of your sentiments, I would say that the only way this wretched condem Government will not run its course is if the Libs decide to bail out. There is no sign of this happening. They will cling on as long as possible hoping for a reversal of fortune or a new “Falklands factor”.
      At present, and for the forseeabale future, both Tories and their Liberal enablers would be slaughtered in any election. Turkeys do not vote for an extra Christmas!

      Gissajob

      October 11, 2012 at 2:39 pm

  10. Thought you all might be interested in this:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217101/No-booze-smart-cards-benefit-claimants-spend-handouts-drugs-alcohol.html#comments

    Looks like the era of restricted benefits via smartcards instead of cash is just around the corner. Claimants with drug and alcohol might be given these cards to stop them feeding their habit if IDS has his way. And there may be scope for other claimants (JSA? ESA?) to receive these eventually too…

    scarecrow78

    October 13, 2012 at 10:13 am


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