Ipswich Unemployed Action.

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Actively Seeking Employment: New Fortnighly Form.

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The Government has been increasingly demanding new rights over the unemployed.

The Work Programme and with Workfare, and the way private companies have got power over people’s lives have stuck out. As has the way companies like A4E, Working Links, SEETEC and others make large, publicly funded, profits out of the unemployed.

But those signing on know there are lots of other, smaller, ways in which we are told what to do, and treated, that show how this works.

One is the fortnightly obligation to present a list of what we have done.

This was known as “Looking For Work” (ES4JP_012004_001).

This was a record to

  • plans and follow up your job search effectively
  • keep in contact with employers and people who may provide job leads
  • show that you are actively seeking employment. You must show that yow were actively seeking employment in each week covered by your Labour Market Declaration.

Now there is a new form,

I was told this week that all that I had filled in on the previous form was of no interest whatsoever – why indeed did I bother to fill it in?

The new one is called Actively Seeking Employment (no number on it).

Even more than the Looking For Work it looks like the kind of declaration you would have to make if you were on Bail under some Charge.

It is a separate form for each fortnight, including the usual details and a list of the things you have done. It’s a little more precise. Under the list of jobs you ahev appluied for udring the period you ahve to gvie the name and address of the employers – in about enough space for four words.

What is different is a section entitled, “Was there anything that prevented you from taking the steps detailed on your Jobseeker’s Agreement during this period.

This, as said, really looks like some kind of legal document.

It makes you feel under constant surveillance, or perhaps as if you were back at school with teacher looking at your progress all the time.

It will certainly not help anybody find work.

 

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  1. I’ve been hearing about this new form, but it hasn’t been something I’ve had to deal with yet.
    Are you saying that you have to turn up, with a record of what you have been doing, and then transfer it across by hand onto this new form?
    Sounds like the sort of pointless grind that only the DWP could devise.
    On my jobsearch I just put ‘applied for’ and then the DWP reference code. If they want to chase it up (it’s usually just an automated recruitment agency robot wasting my time – thankfully in some cases as the jobs they advertise are shit) then that’s their lookout, they are being paid for it.

    Ghost Whistler

    June 23, 2012 at 10:41 am

    • Surprised Ghost you haven’t had the new one yet.

      Anyway thanks for the effort in scanning but that’s the old one: a kind of book record, a bit like a log for serfs.

      The new one is a new form every two weeks – more like a legal declaration each time.

      Andrew Coates

      June 23, 2012 at 10:54 am

      • Not yet…but who knows.

        That wasn’t me who scanned it. I shouldn’t take someone else’s credit. It was gissajob over at http://thiefofbaghdad.wordpress.com/

        I’ve never seena ny of these things.

        I can’t believe they want us to just copy everything from the jobsearch booklet onto a separate bit of paper every two weeks?

        Ghost Whistler

        June 23, 2012 at 6:35 pm

  2. I scanned it.
    It’s a “coupon” used only for those on the WP. I have never had a jobsearch booklet and still don’t. I used to keep a record of every application made in an exercise book. When asked at fortnightly signing on I would show them the book and they would have a quick look and hand it back. The entries in the exercise book were always accepted as sufficient proof of activity and were a good record for me personally in avoiding duplicate applications etc.
    Now no one asks to see the book. At the JCP they just want a new coupon (filled in) handed in each fortnight. At A4greed they want their own (very poorly drafted with a silly pic of a VW camper van) form. I have given up doing the exercise book as doing 3 records seems stupid.. So rather than doing I record (my book) which contained everything everyone (including me) wanted I now do 2 – one of which is not permanent because it gets handed in to JCP and the other is rubbish.

    I think if you’re doing the “coupon” signing then you can forget the jobsearch booklet.

    Gissajob

    June 24, 2012 at 8:46 am

  3. I hate this new form. I forgot to make a note of what I did for the two weeks previous on the reverse of the form. I sign on tomorrow and can’t stop worrying they’ll make a big deal of it.

    But what’s the point? I told them what I did for the previous two weeks the last time I signed on. What’s the point of this memory test?

    jamesbennett777@yahoo.co.uk

    May 16, 2013 at 6:46 pm

  4. I’ve been filling out the ES4JP each fortnight & then I sign a ES24JP declaration which states that I have done no work paid or otherwise.

    I’ve been on JSA for just 3 months & am over 25 – so won’t be on Work Programme unless I’m on JSA for 12 months.

    On Tuesday I was given a form headed ACTIVELY SEEKING EMPLOYMENT to complete which has no identifying code on it anywhere – nor does it have Jobcentreplus logo. It does state Version 5 – April 2013 at the foot of the reverse side.

    It provides 13 spaces to be completed with application details & 9 spaces about other steps to find work. It includes a section providing details on finding work in the 2 weeks before the form, details of courses & of anything that prevented looking for work & a declaration to be signed on the reverse.

    Who is this form for? Is this specifically for those on the WP – or is now for everyone on JSA whether new, 3, 6, 12 months plus?

    D7

    October 3, 2013 at 8:39 pm

  5. On completing Actively Seeking Employment forms do we have to give them to the receptionist or the advisor? Can we keep them – or do we have to give them to JCP? Can we get a copy? What is the reasoning about giving info about the 2 weeks BEFORE?

    D7

    October 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm

  6. It certainly won’t help you find work but (NOT) Actively Seeking Employment will certainly help the jobcentre stop your payments!

    JC Sucks

    October 3, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    • Do you still get the forms if you are on the wp and or signed up to ujm ?

      philip

      October 4, 2013 at 7:55 am

  7. If the reports of 30 september in the GUARDIAN are true, that Government Advisors are trying to make it harder for those on esa to get benefits, {a} Will we end up with atos or jcp in surgeries as was once muted. {b} What happens if your dr and or hospital advise you to stay off work, atos say ”no”. Can a dr override atos on the grounds of medical proffesion being ”above and beyond” in expertise

    philip

    October 4, 2013 at 8:20 am

  8. philip :
    If the reports of 30 september in the GUARDIAN are true, that Government Advisors are trying to make it harder for those on esa to get benefits, {a} Will we end up with atos or jcp in surgeries as was once muted. {b} What happens if your dr and or hospital advise you to stay off work, atos say ”no”. Can a dr override atos on the grounds of medical proffesion being ”above and beyond” in expertise

    philip

    October 4, 2013 at 8:22 am


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