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Challenge illegal Jobcentre Plus ‘security’… no SIA licence?

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We recently reported about Jobcentre Plus office in Ipswich having staff on Door B instead of G4s Security.

Under the Private Security Industry Act 2001, both staff members will require a frontline SIA licence that must be displayed at all times for the purpose of Security Guarding, being managers at Jobcentre Plus doesn’t excuse them.

If you are challenged by them whilst entering Door B (or any other place in the country if applicable) challenge them back by asking to see their SIA licence. If they stumble… walk on by…

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Written by Universal Jobmatch

October 6, 2011 at 9:38 am

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  1. Surely walking on by is what they want you to do, you’re trying to get in to sign on so you can have an income!

    Certainly report them if they are breaking the law. Seems to me this is another avenue of ‘cleansing’ that the government is enacting against claimants. No access = no money = no claimant.

    wishface

    October 6, 2011 at 10:10 am

    • My bad! I mean walk past them, not walking on by!! hehe

      It is… surely one person is adequate?

      Nooo… one directly faces the door and the other blocks the stairs. Furthermore, these two people are managers… I am assuming its due to the whole authority thing.

      I like to know on what merits they use to enforce the blocking system? As you have been given an appointment you have written consent, therefore its never trespass.

      So if you manage to get past them there is nothing any G4s security or the police can do. The only way you can trespass is if you break the rules of entry… i.e. use your mobile phone etc. or smoke (which as we know is a criminal offence too).

      Work Programme

      October 6, 2011 at 10:39 am

  2. Having JC staff manning the doors; was this a one off?

    bubbagumbo

    October 6, 2011 at 10:55 am

  3. If job centre staff were / are acting as door security without an SIA licence then they were / are committing a criminal offence. Engaging in licensable activity without a licence carries a maximum penalty of six months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £5000.
    You can report the criminals anonymously to crimestoppers on 0800 555 111 or alternatively you can report them using an online form at the SIA website:
    http://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/Report-Illegal-Activity.aspx

    Ian

    October 6, 2011 at 12:23 pm

  4. Our Work Programme is giving new skills to people far from the jobs market.

    i have to disagree with george on this one strongly,there are no new skills other then sitting in a trance looking at websites with glum faces.the cv session that has been gone through and through.the same old thing. in fact people were being deemed to be up to date and sessions ended.

    the hardest to help are given appointments a month apart then handed over to one of the providers partner organisations’ passing the buck on. a company supposedly spearheading a change in benefits culture has no clue what to do.

    ken

    October 6, 2011 at 6:47 pm

  5. Jobcentre plus are not breaking the law with regards to security, yes you are correct in that individuals who wish to carry out security work have to be licensed. But an individual who is directly employed by a company, in this case its jobcentre plus would not require to be licensed by the SIA to work as a security guard. However if you choose to have agency staff in this case its G4S, then by law all security operatives will have to hold a valid frontline licence, and it will have to be visible to members of the public whilst on duty.

    Balla Briggs

    October 10, 2011 at 6:32 pm

  6. I’ve been refused entry to the jobcentre because I was more than ten minutes early for my appointment.

    Lee

    October 13, 2011 at 7:38 am

  7. Becareful though if they haven’t got an SIA badge then they haven’t got allot to loose by knocking you out. Clever twats ! – lol good luck x

    Paul

    October 13, 2011 at 5:01 pm

  8. The SIA is an unlawful organisation, it is more an extortion racket set up by the corrupt government forever looking at new ways to oppress and extort money from the general public.
    Under international law, everyone has a right to work, and should not be discriminated against, the choice of whether or not to employ should be made by the actual employer, not the government, just who do they think they are anyway?
    Where in actual law (not statute rule) does it say that the government has a right to say who can and cannot work in the security industry?
    And for the record, anyone working directly for the company they are protecting, be it jobcentre or nightclub, they are also automatically exempt from this SIA licensing scam!

    Neil

    June 30, 2013 at 11:57 pm


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