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Lord Freud, Minister for Welfare Reform on Government Plans.

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Recently our old friend, his Lordship David Freud, Minister for Welfare Reform, DWP , made a speech (from Here).

For some unaccountable reason Ipswich Unemployed Action was not invited to this event, or sent the left-overs from  the sumptuous buffet afterwards.

We have however added our comments.

 

Address to Welfare Providers

Wednesday 2 June 2010, Church House

First of all, thanks to Chris for outlining our ambitions for radical welfare reform.As you’ve heard, it is absolutely vital that we press ahead with these reforms as quickly as possible.For one thing, as Iain Duncan Smith pointed out in his speech last Thursday, the country quite literally cannot afford to go on like this.

But just as importantly, we need to take this opportunity to tackle poverty and long-term worklessness while there is a real appetite for radical change in government and across the country.

That is not to underestimate the scale of the challenge.No-one doubts there are problems within the current benefits system.

The incentives are inadequately aligned and the system actually reinforces unemployment and the poverty trap, rather than fighting it as it should.

There are real issues with the link between risk and reward for those who want to make the journey back to work.

And there are inherent problems with a system that does not concentrate enough on outcomes as the key measure.

That adds up to the central challenge for everyone here today as we work together to address the underlying issues that have left so many lives blighted by entrenched worklessness and poverty (aka the level of benefits you propose to lower).

There is some good news though, because we now have a government that is committed to making the changes we need and a Secretary of State who is prepared to champion the reforms in Cabinet.

Our reforms will be radical, but they are based around a simple premise: re-establishing responsibility and fairness as the cornerstone of our society (who are you kidding?).

What this means for you as providers, or potential providers, is equally simple: we will pay you a fair rate, but that rate will be set by outcomes, not by input (drive ’em off benefits for god’s sake!) .

At the same time, we will free you from the pressures of political tinkering so that you can get on with the job, making the most of your own expertise and “business practices”. ( nervous titters) .

In this way, we will fix the system so that it works better for you, works out cheaper for taxpayers, and works harder for those who are hardest to help.

Work programme rationale

This is the rationale behind the Government’s single Work Programme.

We believe the present system does not do enough to help people get back to work and keep them there. Too often the system itself is responsible for ‘churn’ – people moving off benefits, into unsustainable work, back on to benefits, and back into unsustainable work, endlessly cycling between the two (What the hell is ‘unsustinable work’ in English?)

Moreover, the present system lumps people into a series of almost arbitrary categories. Not only that, but it fails to draw an adequate distinction between those who are work ready and simply need a job, and those who need substantial help to get back into the labour market (explain how your own period as a Government Adviser under Gordon Brown failed this alter this. Answers on back of a matchbox) .

The new Work Programme will be different.

It will be designed to allow you, the people who work at the coalface(!!!!!!!!!), to run your own operations as you see fit and provide more personalised help where that works for the individual.  (Like putting Urban Foxes in charge of a chicken-coop).

If a jobseeker requires eight escalating stages of support rather than six, it will be up to you to make that decision.

If a jobseeker needs intensive support from day one and is referred to you, it will be up to you to decide what support they get. One programme also means you can tackle the collective issues of family members in a coherent way – rather than splitting them up into different programmes. (Does this mean they will be in charge of families’ private lives – because this is what it looks like).

Sustainability will be at the heart of the Work Programme. You will be expected to handle the journey into work and the early stages within a new job – when those hardest to help are in the most fragile position. (More Nosey-Parkering.)

 

Necessity of dialogue

This must involve a radical shake-up of the system – and it must happen quickly. But despite the scale of our ambition and the pace of change, I want to assure everyone here that this will be a two-way process. (That is, the  Unemployed are merchandise between the Government and the Providers).

As you know, I have been in constant dialogue with you over the last year – through bodies like ERSA and the CBI – and that process will continue.

We want to bring you all with us and we are open to any ideas that will help us get the process moving quickly (Consult Ipswich Unemployed Action and you’ll be even quicker – we would get rid of the lot of you shifty types.)

We have a very clear idea of where we are going. But we haven’t nailed down all the steps we need to get there. The obvious example is the question of how we start up the system.

Fundamentally, that is why we are here today (and for the excellent food and drink)  – so we can start that process of open and honest dialogue. We will need to create a provider-based regime that preserves and embraces the best of what we have, while building the new framework we need to move forward.

Provider capital

Many of you already know my views about the type of changes we need to make (Unlike us, poor fools, who you’ve not informed  at all).

To keep up the pace of progress we envisage, we will need well-capitalised and well-resourced groups that are prepared to take up the challenge of competition in this area. (what a profitable business running the out-of-works lives can be!)

Given the greater off-flows we expect to see through migration (!!!!) from Incapacity Benefit to ESA (Employment and Support Allowance) under the new Work Capability Assessment, we will need companies with the scale to make an impact.

And in view of the difficulties that we are all familiar with in targeting support to some of the hardest to reach, we will also need groups that already have – or can co-opt into consortia – the skills and expertise needed to provide real change to people’s lives (we are already all to aware of what ‘changes’ can happen)

Consortia formation, financing and management will, I am convinced, lie at the heart of the successful operation of the sector.

So if you represent a medium or larger organisation, you might want to accelerate your thinking about how you can work with partners with resources in other areas or locations. Many of you, I know, have already elaborated strategies in this area. (tired, opps, tried,  and proven success eh……)

We’re already seeing the emergence of groups with strong skill-sets and a solid reserve of capital (??????); groups which are in a financial position to compete and invest in moving their customers into work.

At the same time, increased competition will be fairly rewarded by a payment-by-outcomes system that will foster innovation and creativity. And we will base our payments more firmly on keeping people in employment.

This is how the Government and the taxpayer can finally harness the dynamism and initiative that is evident in the organisations represented in this room today. (Pass the sick-bucket..)

There is a unique opportunity to combine the best of the third sector, the voluntary sector and the private sector to reinvigorate our welfare-to-work system.

Industry policing

The new Work Programme will herald a fundamental recalibration of the role of the state in welfare provision.

Yes, we’ll continue to make benefit payments and support the most vulnerable.

Yes, we’ll continue to hold a stake in your relationships with Jobcentre customers.

But we will not tell you how to run your businesses and we won’t meddle in your operations. (See remarks on Urban Foxes above).

We are determined that the “black box” approach, as it has been called, will really mean that we will judge you by your results and pay you accordingly. (Translation: we put the workless in a dark hole and let you get on with it.)

Some of you will remember that this proposition was at the heart of my report three years ago, when I recommended greater private and voluntary sector involvement in the welfare system. (We remember  it well, and we’ve marked you down ever since your Lordship).

We have moved in the right direction since then, but there are still too many top-down Whitehall rules instead of a framework that frees your ability to apply your own approach to get Britain working.

These changes will allow you to individualise your services like never before.

This implies greater specialisation. Some of you will concentrate in helping lone parents into work; or providing intensive support for ethnic groups in your area who suffer particular disadvantages.

All we want to focus on, and pay you for, is your record of getting people off benefits and into sustainable work. And this really is a big change – we care as much about your record of keeping people in work as we do your record of getting them there in the first place.

Challenges ahead

I don’t underestimate the challenges ahead. We’ll have to work out a different kind of pricing structure to establish rates of payment to providers – one which reflects the cost of supporting different types of jobseekers. (We assure you, you’ll make a mint with a growing captive market!)

There will be the added challenge of former Incapacity Benefit claimants flowing onto ESA through the Work Capability Assessment – or making a claim for Jobseeker’s Allowance. (You’ll  have to put up with the lame and the halt – but we’ll pay you well.)

Rolling out the Work Programme across the country will be a challenge,(how true!)  especially with regards to managing the transition. As Chris said, we intend to provide you with specific propositions shortly.

We’ve made good progress with our plans, but we want to hear your suggestions before we finalise them. After we’ve reflected on today, officials will be writing to all providers and bidders, spelling out the implications programme by programme and competition by competition.

Communications officials will be on hand to deal with your enquiries, and we’ve even set up a dedicated email address so we can provide effective Questions and Answers. The address is:

THEWORKPROGRAMME.EXTERNAL@DWP.GSI.GOV.UK  (Please contact them asp).

Conclusion

I want to close by reassuring you that those providers who have done well and are moving into the Work Programme with a legacy of strong performance (!!!!!!) are in a good position for the future.

For smaller providers, we will examine ways to provide you with the support you need, and encourage ideas that help you to access the capital you need, so that you can play a full part in the Work Programme.

Welfare reform is at the very top of the Government’s agenda – it was right at the top of last week’s Queen’s speech – and it is a personal goal of mine.

Many of you know me. I hope I have begun to earn your trust – at least for the consistency of my message. I want to make the system work well and work for everyone – just as Chris does, just as the new Secretary of State does, and just as the entire Coalition Government does.

Because welfare reform is the key to so many of this country’s problems; and you are the key to welfare reform. We, as a government, believe in the values of freedom, fairness and responsibility (!!!!!), and these ideas embody the thinking behind the Work Programme.

So please, engage with us during this collaborative reform process. Talk to us, to DWP officials, and amongst each other. Voice your concerns and make your suggestions (Unemployed follow this example of your betters and do the same!).

This is a pivotal time for welfare in this country. I urge you all to help us implement the reforms we so desperately need, and play a part getting Britain back to work.

Thank you.

Since June, as the plans are rolling out,  one thing is becoming clearer and clearer the Likes of A4E and the rest of the scapegrace ‘providers’ are going to run amok under Welfare Reform.

  

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Written by Andrew Coates

July 3, 2010 at 10:08 am

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  1. “black box” – ? Medieval torture chambers were “black boxes” – they got results.

    Iron Maiden

    July 3, 2010 at 10:51 am

  2. “Our reforms will be radical, but they are based around a simple premise: re-establishing responsibility and fairness as the cornerstone of our society”.

    I look forward to seeing the instant resignation of any MP/Minister or third party private secter adviser/company employed on government buisness caught behaving unaceptably or performing well below their job description from now on then.

    I will not be holding my breath, I think the Tories have made a rod for their own backs with the slogan: “re-establishing responsibility and fairness as the cornerstone of our society”. In the same way Neo-Labour’s “war on Rip Off Britain,No More wars,Things can only get better, and British Jobs for British workers, Ending Fuel Poverty”, (or anything else they ever said backfired badly on them and came back to haunt them.

    Lowestoft's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 11:28 am

    • Talking of Wars… hasn’t the Con-servatives decided to extend the war campaign beyond that what Labour would have done?

      Its sad how I will lose my benefit soon due to “cut backs” and how they want to cut down on budgets to protect our country from the inside…. yet they are happy to waste billions by sending under-equipped soldiers into a war zone commanded by Americans who managed to kill more of themselves and innocent civilians than those whom they are meant be killing (terrorists).

      Flexible New Deal

      July 3, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    • If it wasn’t for A-merica and your King Tony Blair, they would now all be speaking Terroristese in Chantry.

      Colonel Sanders junior III

      July 3, 2010 at 5:39 pm

      • What worries me is you know about the existence of that language and I don’t!

        Flexible New Deal

        July 4, 2010 at 9:27 am

  3. Does anybody remember a period in the early 1990’s when people on the then equivilent of JSA were encouraged to register as sick. I think it was about the time FRANK DOBSON was the labour shadow employment minister ?. Maybe if the welfare to work programme goes belly up who knows…..?

    MOSES

    July 3, 2010 at 11:35 am

  4. Comrade Lowestoft’s Finest:

    Today I retrieve your buried bottle complete with secret spy message OK.

    But please to check your using correct code book, as I have many problems understanding your message. I transcribe your message to read:

    “No Milk Today, thank you”. ???????

    (one for any MI5/6 snoopers on these boards.)

    Moscow's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 12:02 pm

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      Lincolnshire Poacher

      July 3, 2010 at 12:15 pm

      • Comrade Lincolnshire Poacher

        Message recieved and understood.

        Plize to be tell me are you vanting it viz or vizout chize?

        Comrade Moscow's Finest

        July 3, 2010 at 12:27 pm

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      Lincolnshire Poacher

      July 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    • 466T834H164E316T955A494N591K684S095W972I115L822L233A495R125R913I537V678E1519A466R834R164I316V955E494A591T684D0959E721N158C222O334R951A259H135O376U781S519E969V466I834V164A316T955H494E591L684I095B972E115R8222A334T951I259O1353N767C815O199M466R834A164D316E95549459168409597211582223349512591353767815199666

      Lincolnshire Poacher

      July 3, 2010 at 1:07 pm

      • Anyone ever decode these “messages”?

        Scrambled Brain

        October 22, 2010 at 3:37 pm

  5. Unlike previously, it looks like the providers will now have to pay up front from their own money or get a bank loan to run these work programs.

    Funny A4e Photos

    July 3, 2010 at 12:22 pm

  6. Since today we are encoding secret messages, I have just cracked Lord Freud’s meggage below, when he in code said:

    “I want to close by reassuring you that those providers who have done well and are moving into the Work Programme with a legacy of strong performance (!!!!!!) are in a good position for the future.”

    After unencoding it I can reveal he actualy meant:

    ” providers who in the past bunged Blukett better wise up quick,and start bunging me instead if they want to hold on to their contracts”

    Lowestoft's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 1:08 pm

  7. Comrade Anrei Coates

    Our contacts reports they have found many empty Abbot Ale Bottles at your alotment, but find no message, please instead send messages using pigeons we provided.

    Kremlin very displeased with your work so far and may no longer recruit via jobcentre plus work trials, instead we now go back to traditional method of recruitment “Cambridge University” as we not get problems like this with Agents Punt or Dennis.

    Moscow's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 3:03 pm

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      Lincolnshire Poacher

      July 3, 2010 at 3:35 pm

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        1234

        July 6, 2010 at 12:01 pm

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    Lincolnshire Poacher

    July 3, 2010 at 3:38 pm

  9. Urgent: need more pigeons as ex-Comrade Coates has taken to shooting them with air-rifle.

    Colonel K.Philby (rtd)

    July 3, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    • Comrades; Ve Haf Zee Pigeons. Uuuus vill find em on ze Majors Corners In Zee Town of Ipsweech under derr big trees

      Guy Burgess

      July 5, 2010 at 4:02 pm

  10. Colonel K.Philby (rtd)

    Urgent message from Kremlin:

    Limited supply of trained pigeons, unlimited supply of Abbot Ale.

    Till Comrade Johnny Morris can train next batch, supply Comrade Coates with more Abbot ale and Expect watch marksmanship deteriorate.

    ( method worked well when we had similar pigeon problem with Agent Dick Dastardly).

    Moscow's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    • Just Heard One Of The Casualties Of The Hose Pipe Ban Will Be A Reduction In The Use Of Water For The Making Of Beer. It Has Been Suggested That Abbot Ale [Or East Anglian Holy Water] Could Be One Of The 1st On The List. The Second Would Be Fountain Baths For Pigeons

      Dick Dastardly

      July 7, 2010 at 7:19 am

  11. Lowestoft's Finest

    July 3, 2010 at 8:30 pm

  12. Good Morning, Jobseekers. Hayley, who modelled herself on Pauline from The League of Gentlemen, is back on TV!

    Hayley Taylor – last seen in Channel 4’s 2009 documentary series Benefit Busters – takes on the challenge of getting the unemployed of Britain back into work.
    TUESDAY 13 JULY 9pm – Channel 4

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-fairy-jobmother

    Funny A4e Photos

    July 3, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    • OK. So There are going to be cutbacks. What Happens to the likes of Emma Harrison of A4E and Sally Smith of YMCA [Training ????]
      When the cut backs mean they have no job. Will they be sent to the hell holes lof RIP and Dencora House or their affiliates. I very much doubt it

      Dencora Dissident

      July 5, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      • Emma’s got her overseas empire to fall back on if the UK market goes belly up!

        Funny A4e Photos

        July 5, 2010 at 10:17 pm

  13. wot hayley say its true. there is a lot more to work than earning money. its about emofinial well being. i pay 4 me shopping, rent n council tax in emofinial tokens. tesco, the leccy n gas take emofional tokens 2. saving sum emofional tokens 4 the kids xmas luv & kisses xx tracey

    tracey

    July 4, 2010 at 8:15 am

  14. Ipswich Unemployed Action should contact link theTHEWORKPROGRAMME.EXTERNAL@DWP.GSI.GOV.UK

    and see if you can work with them to give some serious input from jobseekers in the real world (not pie in the sky consultants and wet behind the ears ministers) on the other hand if they don’t wan’t to know, then when whole sceme backfires into a budget draining white elephant then Ipswich Unemployed Action can go on a “you would’nt listen” trip.

    ( A win win scenario in my oppinion ).

    Lowestoft's Finest

    July 4, 2010 at 9:35 am

    • Any suggestions as to what we should say?

      Mine, which I got from the Meercats, is simples,

      We don’t want the schemes being a Black-Box.

      Andrew Coates

      July 5, 2010 at 10:41 am

      • Well if its up to me as far as I’m concerned these scemes are going to end up more black hole for tax payers money than black box.

        The government is going about things completely wrong, instead of taking jobseekers on a costly ride to nowhere via 3rd private service providers that just dump them back on square one again. The government should tackle the actual problems that are stopping the jobseeker getting of square one themselves.

        Its a joke to say like the private service providers say that unemployed people don’t know how to get a job, of course we do.

        Its real issues like lack of jobs, the 16 hour rule, inability to afford transport to and from work,the fact that the jobcentre will only pay for transport to interview outside your travel to work area, not local transport to interview which still ciosts a bomb. The issues we discuss on here on a weekly basis, untill these problemms start getting addressed it is inevitable that we will just keep coming back on the dole.

        Lowestoft's Finest

        July 5, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    • Thank you for your enquiry relating to The Work Programme.
      We will aim to produce a written response to your query within ten working days.

      PLEASE NOTE: This inbox is for the use of DWP’s external stakeholders only. Members of the general public should send any enquiries or suggestions to the DWP Ministerial team who will be happy to deal with any correspondence. You can contact them on: ministers@dwp.gsi.gov.uk

      Your e-mail will now be automatically deleted from this mailbox.

      DWP Work Programme Communications Team

      ……

      The Work Programme Inbox - Auto-Reply‏

      July 5, 2010 at 10:49 pm

  15. Judging by the comments about funding on the Indusdelta site, it looks like the job program(s)will be 100% outcome based. The providers will have to invest their own money or get a bank loan to run any of the programs.

    Funny A4e Photos

    July 5, 2010 at 10:26 pm

    • They tried that with Flexible New Deal almost. They wanted it to be mostly outcome with a tiny service fee. After some major negotiations… it became a top heavy service fee. (as it only last approx a year, it worked out great for them)

      All providers use a range of intelligent ways to reduce the cost. No providers buy their own computers (if they are old like some at A4e they are probably owned) they lease them from Dell etc. so the cost is spread out.

      (Longterm lease agreements for these contracts aren’t such a big deal as DWP will take into account previous bidders via backdoor)

      If a provider cannot afford or cannot get the finance to do such a scheme they a) shouldnt have bidded and b) shouldnt be awarded the contract.

      There will be a service fee – I am sure of it. If workfare becomes an ongoing scheme after the pilots, more people will be signing off. A lot will secure a job sooner rather than later – providers can in theory claim for all these outcomes because the people were/are on their books even though they not help them get the job.

      The problem is lack of communication between the participant and them (JCP and Provider) would mean they would be unsure if they could even claim.

      Most people will say they are signing off to avoid workfare – if they had a job offer by then they might keep it to themselves.

      So… a service fee is likely.

      Flexible New Deal

      July 6, 2010 at 9:03 am

  16. Blackbox just sounds like an excuse for an all out war on the unemployed in which the suppliers tear up the Geneva convention.

    The fact that this government are inventing their own meaningless buzz words so hot on the heels of the masters of meaningless buzzwords Neo-Labour indicates they have learn’t nothing from Neo-Labours demise and are destined for the boot a lot earlier than anyone expected.

    Lowestoft's Finest

    July 6, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    • I wonder how the cuts in people working for the DWP are going to affect us.

      I noticed I that the Dole signed me on 25 minutes late this week.

      If I’d been 25 minutes late I’d have risked a sanction.

      Andrew Coates

      July 7, 2010 at 2:44 pm

      • I had more than a slight suspicion that the last government were gearing up to replace many DWP staff with temp agency staff, and I doubt if the new government will depart from the same idea.

        Lowestoft's Finest

        July 7, 2010 at 3:05 pm

      • Strict Guidelines – they typically give people 5 minutes before a sanction becomes guaranteed. I think they warn people for first time offense – anymore times it is a sanction.

        Flexible New Deal

        July 7, 2010 at 4:59 pm

  17. Completely scrap the idea of welfare. For everyone for the unemployed, for prisoners, for the elderly/inferm and ofcourse the disabled,

    The government has abandoned the idea of disabilities in the welfare system, nobody is disabled and if anyone gets to be classed as disabled hey ho move the goal posts why don’t we. If we didn’t admit it then there wouldn’t be any need for the extra benefits. Let the disabled, mentally ill or terminal commit suicide. Save on the burden and if the disabled cant d it themselves why not push themoff the white cliffs of dover.

    Prisoners have forfeited their right to healthcare, food and the right to live under, at the tax payers expense.

    As for the Unemployed, Stick em in workhouses or the prisons emptied out by the reintroduction of hanging , build a brick wall around liverpool post guards and everyone who loses their job gets put in that ghetto like that film escaping newyork. Stick the downtrodden working class scum who can;t get a job into these prisons, i mean help and re-education centres. You have already got the tin pot dictators in those private third party organisations, i think they refer to them as Empoloyment Officers. And over the entrace to the liverpool open prison have ARBET MACHT FREI.

    Why the contribution is important
    Gotta let the governmeant award themselves huge pay rises and bonuses, so they can get the finer things in life such as the fine wines held by the governmeant the platinum clad mp pensions. Need I go on
    A spoof post put on your freedom and spending challenge websites

    Kyron

    July 26, 2010 at 9:32 am

    • lol For a moment there, until I saw the big bold spoof post bit, I seriously thought that you had lost the plot Kyron, was just about to arrange an appointment with the doctor for you.

      Value Digestive

      July 26, 2010 at 10:05 am

      • I have to admit… me too! lol

        I am glad Kyron had stuck that in bold, as I would have missed it.

        Flexible New Deal

        July 26, 2010 at 10:25 am

      • No need to arrange a doctors appointment. I got one coming up soon. Interesting though I went to my so called specialist provider and told them i was suffering with severe depression and had suicidal tendencies and mood swings. They were uncaring and told me to go for esa on statng to them it doesn’t take into account mental ilness they said it doesn’;t but with the other stuff go for it. I don’t want to I said I want a job, well there attitude was your wasting our time here as it has took us a long time to build relationships with potential employers, like i care i thought. Dont know what were going to d with you. But basically i was told my fault i got severe depression and if i don’t f-ing well like it sign off your decision to bludge off the government. Nobody is making you sign on they said

        Kyron

        July 26, 2010 at 10:26 am

      • Kyron I hope you’ve kept a record of this.

        Keep this thought: you can use that at least against them.

        Andrew Coates

        July 27, 2010 at 9:10 am

  18. Well apart from posting it on here. I have kept it in a personal form of diary. I have sent a letter to the dwp about severe feelings of suicide and hinted blood will be on his hands. I have also corrected a few lies. They stated they were helping me with my jobsearc, no user id AND password hence no pc to use, no papers, they might send me one or two jobs by email but nothing more usually out of the place in 15-20minuteds and get £7.20 in travel.They stated to the DWP that they are helping me with online courses. Online courses are part of C.P.D and don’t count as I am doing them myself anyway

    Kyron

    July 27, 2010 at 10:17 am

  19. Lord Freud should never be in power

    woofey

    October 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm

  20. oops that was my dog but he’s right.Lord Freud is being used by the DWP to harass me for a 15 year old debt thats not even mine but Lord Freud replied to my M.P that I must be pursued.I think this is scandalas but nobody cares.People in power only really serve themselves and foff off everybody else.
    R.Burdon.

    R.Burdon

    October 22, 2010 at 3:27 pm

  21. lord freud the architect of new deal and along with frank field are still prominent,even after the failings of new deal.this is totally scandalous that this is so,anywhere else and they would be fired given the costs and outcomes.

    ken

    October 22, 2010 at 3:39 pm


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