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The roll-out of the Future Jobs Fund, an extension of the Young Person’s Guarantee to 2011/12 and the two year Jobseekers guarantee – all programmes to help guarantee work or training for longer term unemployed people in the recession – were cut altogether, saving £995m.

Yvette Cooper, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said: “This is shocking short-termist and shows that the Tory-Liberal government clearly thinks unemployment is a price worth paying … it will cost us all far more in the long term in higher unemployment benefits and damage to our communities.”

A Treasury spokesman insisted that the schemes would be replaced by a new Single Work Programme, but the government could not give details of how this would operate, or what it would cost.

(From Here)

This is an outline of what we know so far (from Here).

Chris Grayling 10th of June.

(Minister of State (Employment), Work and Pensions; Epsom and Ewell, Conservative)

The Government have previously announced their plans for radical reforms of the welfare to work system and the implementation of the Work Programme. The Work Programme will be a single integrated package of support providing personalised help for everyone who finds themselves out of work regardless of the benefit they claim.

This will give providers longer to work with individuals and greater freedom to decide the appropriate support for them. We will also offer stronger incentives for providers to work with the harder to help, paying providers out of the additional benefits they realise as a result of placing people into work.

We are determined to move quickly and are aiming to have the Work Programme in place nationally by the summer of 2011.

Until the Work Programme is implemented, we will ensure support is in place. Where necessary, we will seek to extend current arrangements to ensure that there is no gap in provision and people can continue to receive help and support to get back into work.

Once the Work Programme is implemented it will supersede much of the complicated raft of national programmes currently on offer and these will be phased out. The support currently provided by programmes such as the Flexible New Deal will be folded into the Work Programme as soon as possible.

We are committed to supporting severely disabled people and are currently reviewing the best way of doing this.

The Government have today written to relevant providers and will be beginning one to one discussions with them to discuss what this means for them. We believe that the Work Programme will offer significant new opportunities for contractors from the private and voluntary sectors to deliver truly flexible and personalised support, building appropriate partnerships to do so. We recognise the crucial role that the voluntary sector in particular has to play in tackling worklessness, and our plans reflect this.

We will be publishing further details as the design and implementation of the Work Programme progresses.

I make the following observations.

Firstly, any work-for-benefits (Workfare) scheme in this programme will be very expensive. It needs a complicated system of ‘providers’. It needs overseers to make us toil. Secondly, if it is used to patch gaps in local services (growing with all the cuts they are making), it will cause immense resentment amongst the employees whose jobs it threatens. Thirdly, with no job guarantee at the end it will be loathed by those forced onto it.

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Written by Andrew Coates

June 18, 2010 at 10:14 am

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  1. why are they threatening to cut benefits and implement tougher sanctions? when they’ve just taken away support for people to actually get a job.
    where’s the fairness in that?

    Tommy

    June 18, 2010 at 11:41 am

  2. Andy, workfare is solely punishment – unlike New Deal and FND where a work placement was intended to “get your foot in the door” which could lead to a job but not guaranteed – mean you are pretty much guaranteed not to have a job by the end of it.

    Flexible New Deal

    June 18, 2010 at 11:52 am

  3. Good riddance to them and the parasites that implement them.

    Lowestoft's Finest

    June 18, 2010 at 12:28 pm

  4. “severely disabled people” this means they have a high chance of needing a carer,while every effort it welcome to achieve this its to be treated warily of their intentions particularly after the atos fiasco and the priority to move those onto lesser money and subjecting them to the jobseekers allowance.

    any disabled person needs the maximum of support and effort to enable the most out of life and has substantial barriers into employment and expectations however there is a tendency amongst some to water down issues that could be seen as a potential barrier even though such action is illegal they (dwp) have no control over this.

    i have only one job centre employee mention that this discrimination goes on and proving it is extremely difficult,disabled people should not be victim of this to finance cuts by unfair means’ and used as such any disabled person is subject to the disability discrimination act and deserves the utmost protection from exploitation from all areas’. .

    ken

    June 18, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    • It wont stop at Fred/Freda, that is where those currently in employment are sadly mistaken. We only have to look at Eastern Europe to see that. Here in the UK we have a peculiar conception that certain occupations are “middle-class” and therefore deserve to attract higher pay. Have a look at what, a solicitor gets paid in Poland, Romania, Slovakia – answer: chicken feed. At least they pay the Police what they are worth – bugger all.

      Providers will merely act as “middlemen” to smooth the transition from employment to workfare, until the technique becomes more refined, and they themselves having served their purpose fall under the same regime.

      Welcome to the New Soviet Union/Big Society

      Oracle

      June 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm

      • Oracle, In the days of the USSR when you got called up for National Service in the Red Army the very worst posting you could get was the Construction Battalians as they were living hell, becouse of this they were actualy the best paid posting in the Red Army as well.

        Lowestoft's Finest

        June 19, 2010 at 8:32 am

  5. Just seen the blog on workfare. If this is used to fill gaps in council services this is how is this how it will work ?

    {Fred has a job with the council as a road sweeper} The cuts mean pooor fred gets fired. {Fred ends up at the hell hole DDC} DDC put him on workfare as a ROAD SWEEPER

    Welcome to hell 2010

    dencora dissident

    June 18, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    • What about Freda? Freda has a job as an adviser at DDC. Tough operating conditions mean that YMCA has to “let Freda go” (Freda doesn’t go anywhere). Freda ends up as being “re-deployed” as a “volunteer” adviser with YMCA on WORKFARE.

      Rocket

      June 18, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    • Spot on Dencora,
      I can just see all those low end entry council jobs dissappearing through “natural wastage” only to be replaced in reality by workfare forced labour.

      In the private secter many long existing factories with workers who were on good terms and conditions due to their length of service and earning decent money at higher grades, got round the problem by pulling up the ladder by just outsourcing the lowest entry jobs to agency workers, this meant they were stuck in that position and had no chance of progressing to any of the higher grades which were costing the company money.

      The Unions need to wise up to this as replacing the lowest council grades with workfare labour is an attack on their members jobs,terms and conditions and most of all it is an attack on thee Unions themselves as the workfare labour willbe non Union so is cutting off the supply ofnew recruits to the Union.

      Neo-Labour have now stuffed the Unions with Workfare far more than Thatcher ever did, and the Unions are stupid enough to fund these traitors with their subs to do it. If there is a positive side then Neo-Labour have also unwittingly stuffed themselves as they are funded by Union Subs every workfare public secter forced labourer replacing a public secter worker is a loss of subs to Neo-Labour.

      Lowestoft's Finest

      June 19, 2010 at 7:52 am

      • In my days when we young and single, the days when we used to have to queue at the factory gates to get our cards stamped by the boss to show to the labour exchange, well those married guys with families were well and truly stuffed… you see… because we could afford to work for less. I agree with you, Ken, unions today are useless, along with politicians, the working man deserves what is coming to him.

        OLd Timer

        June 19, 2010 at 8:12 am

  6. IF ANYBODY WANTS IT. THE PHONE NUMBER OF THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE YMCA IN THE UK IS
    0207 343 1844 TO MAKE A COMPLAINT ABOUT DENCORA HOUSE YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THE ESTATES MANGER OR THE PROJECTS MANAGER. THEIR ADDRESS IS THE YMCA GREAT BRITAIN
    GREAT RUSSELL STREET
    LONDON WC1

    HOPE THIS HELPS

    dencora dissident

    June 19, 2010 at 8:06 am

  7. What about hiring some of these dudes (made by Serco!):

    Forth Valley Royal Hospital to use robot ‘workers’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/10344849.stm

    Robby the Robot

    June 19, 2010 at 8:28 am

  8. Hi Robbie the Robot and Old Timer.

    Yes ‘Robots’ to replace workers at Forth Valley Hospital. Don’t forget although the robots are made by SERCO. Serco also supply services to DWP etc. I hope you are NOT thinking what I am thinking. Secondly those that are destined for YMCA Dencora Detention Centre, how would

    I am NOT CHRSTIAN and therefore if I were to attend YMCA it would be against my belif. Would there be a Human Rights Action in this case ? Any legal dudes out there please advise before anybody tries it and gets stuffed by DWP.

    dencora dissident

    June 19, 2010 at 9:40 am

    • YMCA stands for YOUNG MENS CHRISTIAN ASSOCIATION, so I’d expect that the same argument would apply also to the OLD and WOMEN. You’d have a good argument in Law if you were to argue the point (unless they changed their name), but can’t see it holding much water with the DWP. It’s not as clear as in showing good cause as in the instance of sending a vegetarian for a job in a meat-packing factory or abattoir.

      Hammer

      June 19, 2010 at 10:08 am

  9. I’ve tried all these lines with the YMCA (I am doing my FND with them btw).

    That is: “I am not a Christian I am not Young and why do Women have to be here when it’s a Men’s organisation”

    I have also said that I have “diversity issues” with them -as they display statements (such as “Motivated by our faith”) against my deeply held beliefs.

    None worked.

    Andrew Coates

    June 19, 2010 at 10:27 am

  10. MR COATES And HAMMER.

    This is NOT a racist comment, but I just wonder if a woman who was visibly of another faith by way of dress including maybe headwear ?, were to try the diversity stance if it were to work ?.

    dencora dissident

    June 19, 2010 at 10:50 am

    • This could also equally apply to men.
      Know of one guy who refused to shave – said it went against his “religious beliefs”.

      Hammer

      June 19, 2010 at 11:53 am

    • YMCA Lowestoft actualy employed a female Muslim member of staff. But I did know a practicing Pagan who maintained that while applying to Pagan based buisnesses for jobs he was severly hamperd by having YMCA stamped on the envelopes. Likewise anybody practicing the Russian Orthodox faith would find the claim of the YMCA to be Christian highly offensive as to the Russian Orthodox they officialy class as non christian Heretics instead.

      In my Oppinion no faith based organisation should be allowed tio take over state buisness as its just going to offend somebody else somewhere down the line and bring up allegations of favouritsm etc.

      Lowestoft's Finest

      June 19, 2010 at 12:14 pm

  11. HAVE BEEN USING THIS SITE AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY IN NORTHGATE STREET IPSWICH. HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN USING THIS SITE READING AND LEAVING BLOGS IT [THE COMPUTER I USE]QUITE OFTEN CRASHES, STICKS, OR WONT LOAD AND I FIND I NEED TOO GO IN THRU GOOGLE. ANYBODY ELSE FOUND THIS ON PUBLIC COMPUTERS AND I DONT MEAN INTERNET CAFES ?

    DENCORA DISSIDENT

    June 19, 2010 at 11:05 am

    • Library internet access is filtered. You shouldn’t have any problem accessing this site through a regular ISP. Having to sneak in via a backdoor like google is kind of suspicious.

      Hammer

      June 19, 2010 at 11:46 am

    • Also a computer shouldn’t have any problems with a simple site like this, its not like its loaded with flash adverts, pop-ups, etc.

      Hammer

      June 19, 2010 at 11:57 am

  12. Should add that all internet access in the UK is filtered through BT Cleanfeed (or equivalent) but I don’t think that we have gone as far a Australia where “political” sites are being blocked.

    Hammer

    June 19, 2010 at 11:49 am

  13. Y.M.C.A ?

    This is an organisation that is meant to show compasion to their ‘fellow man’. Where is the compasion in this Dencora House. They should be giving ‘Tea and Sympathy’, rather than the threat of being poor and homless for lack of benefits. Then of course if you were poor and homless the Y.M.C.A would help you-WOULD THEY NOT. Come on Sally Smith we know you read this blog answer it if would please. We await your answer.

    Mr X

    June 19, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    • Young man, there’s a place you can go.
      I said, young man, when you’re short on your dough.
      You can stay there, and I’m sure you will find
      Many ways to have a good time.

      They have everything for you men to enjoy,
      You can hang out with all the boys …

      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

      You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
      You can do what about you feel …

      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.

      They have everything for you men to enjoy,
      You can hang out with all the boys …

      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
      It’s fun to stay at the y-m-c-a

      Sally Smith

      June 19, 2010 at 1:38 pm

  14. All the streets are crammed with things
    Eager to be held
    I know what hands are for
    And I’d like to help myself
    You ask me the time
    But I sense something more
    And I would like to give
    What I think you’re asking for

    You handsome devil
    Oh, you handsome devil
    Let me get my hands
    On your mammary glands
    And let me get your head
    On the conjugal bed
    I say, I say, I say
    I crack the whip
    And you skip
    But you deserve it
    You deserve it, deserve it, deserve it

    A boy in the bush
    Is worth two in the hand
    I think I can help you get through your exams

    And when we’re in your scholarly room
    Who will swallow whom?

    There’s more to life than books, you know
    But not much more
    😈

    Handsome Devil

    June 19, 2010 at 2:02 pm

  15. YMCA are playing the legacy name card.

    They will employ women because its illegal not to. They will have female clients because again, its illegal not to – although they would simply not get the contract.

    I dont know why any woman would want to work for the YMCA – just saying you are working for them losses credibility.

    They need to rebrand as a neutral organisation and under “History” section of their website etc. they can say they were once called YMCA etc.

    Generally speaking the name has no basis on any defence:-

    Not young?
    Not a man?
    Not a christian?

    You have to do your time!

    Flexible New Deal

    June 19, 2010 at 5:49 pm

  16. PROTESTORS SHUT DOWN A4e EDINBURGH

    “We hope that today’s demo is just the start of action against A4e and compulsory slave labour schemes.

    We are battling to force A4e to recognise the right of claimants to be accompanied to interviews at their offices. On 15th June four of us accompanied a claimant into A4e for his interview there – since A4e refused to hold the interview with an ECAP rep present, the claimant said he didn’t want the interview to go ahead. Now A4e are rescheduling the interview – we demanded and got a written assurance that the claimant’s benefits would be safe in the meantime. We will be back next time to insist on this basic right.

    If we join together then we can force companies like A4e and the benefits authorities to make concessions, eg we could insist that instead of being sent on work placements we can continue doing existing voluntary work or courses. If there are enough of us prepared to take direct action then we could make their schemes unworkable.

    Here’s the link to the full story:
    http://edinburghagainstpoverty.org.uk/node/31

    Funny A4e Photos

    June 19, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    • tesco should be ashamed of themselves whilst their greed no now bounds they are to willing to take free labour that they cannot fill due to unsocial hours’ perhaps this is what they mean by sustainable employment taking.

      it means sod all else.

      ken

      June 21, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    • appetite 4 exploitation wouldn’t be an inappropriate term for this outfit.

      ken

      June 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm

  17. What would be ideal would be for an undercover journalist to be in Dencora Detention Centre and have hidden camera [unless bags are banned]. I am sure local employers including those on the Whitehouse Ind Estate really knows what goes on there. I am sure there is an editior either for a paper or tv station out there who will not be pressurised into withdrawing programming etc [BENEFIT BUSTERS] We can but hope.

    Mr X

    June 20, 2010 at 9:31 am

    • Yesterday I heard any even worse story. My sister has a friend whose brother-in-law lives in Colchester. He is a skilled metal worker. Now redundant. Wife looks after autistic child.

      He’s on some 13 week New Deal thing there.

      Anyway his placement is the evening shift at Tesco’s stacking shelves!

      Like Tesco’s are so hard up they can’t pay someone to do this…

      Andrew Coates

      June 20, 2010 at 10:04 am

      • that’s disgusting

        Tommy

        June 20, 2010 at 11:10 am

      • That’s the absolute pits,the main reason Tesco’s plans to conquer the USA failed was their current British working practices were deemed way illegal under state laws (so much for the myth we get peddled over here that the States is all about deregulation and bosses doing what they wan’t. It seems the opposite applies over there as the arrogant BP boss is finding out.

        Surely his FND provider isn’t so useless they can’t find him a placement more related to his trade? Even up here in East Anglias unemployment black spot)I come across vaccancies in that industy every week while jobsearching(not saying there any good, but the fact is the firms exist so just how difficult would it be to get him a propper placement?

        Lowestoft's Finest

        June 20, 2010 at 11:17 am

      • I suppose most people will read that and be surprised. I am not – the boss got his knighthood from his co-operation in New Deal.

        VSO = Voluntary Sector Option… tesco is for profit (I know how obvious that is, me pointing that out seems out of place) and more to the point they have billions of pounds profit from its global business empire.

        Every New Deal placement could have a PAID job. You dont think that the profits are partly due to thousands of people in the country every year doing 3 months free labour for them.

        Its over 30 hours work a week @ NMW = £174. To make matters worse under New Deal employers are paid a small subsidy to help cover the costs of the person they take on. (I mean take on as a placement!)

        So its not free labour… Tescos are being paid for these people to be in the store.

        This amount isn’t significant as its small although adds up for hundreds of placements. The amount basically covers lost productivity a day by giving instructions to that extra member of staff so for Tescos its a win-win situation.

        Its not just free labour minus a few minutes lost an hour from existing staff having to co-ordinate these people on their existing workload but this is all covered.

        Its not like you can gain any SKILLS from stacking shelves… and I dont care who disagrees the experience of such (unpaid role) is useless.

        Employer: “So… you were unemployed and in that time you managed to work for the richest UK supermarket stacking shelves for free as it was compulsory and managed to leave there without getting a job from it?”

        “Waste!” I shout. If a big organisation like that cant put its money where its mouth is and take you on that means you are shit. OK, perhaps they don’t need any more staff… but if you were really that great they would take you on part time for small number of hours, increase your hours while decreasing someone elses… Stacking shelves anyone can do… you dont gather any work discipline etc. even though you actually do as you still have a supervisor etc. like a paid member of staff but employers wont understand this element of voluntary/unpaid vacancies. Oh and you were forced on to it by the Government (and its partners)… and you had/have a big period of unemployment.

        Thats pretty much rock bottom in my eyes (as far as seeking jobs go).

        Flexible New Deal

        June 20, 2010 at 11:30 am

    • Its not only disgusting… it’s horrific mate… one of me mates was forced to to the same… overnight in Tesco… had the boss shouting at him all the time cos he couldn’t keep up with his *case rate*, he kept getting pains in his lower back but the boss just told him to keep going, his back has now given out and is in a wheelchair 😦 this kinda stuff shouldn’t be going on.

      Archie

      June 20, 2010 at 11:23 am

  18. Hello Mr Coates,

    I heard a rumour a couple of days ago that is unsubstantiated but could never the less be true.

    When a firm takes on a ‘New Dealer’, they that is the firm get a bonus payment of £500:00p. Is there anyway that this could be checked out. I got this from a New Dealer at RIP on the ‘Journey’ Programme.

    Philip Brown

    June 20, 2010 at 11:15 am

  19. Spot on Flexi
    The Tesco sceme is just putting people out of a job, No employer is going to pay somebody to do the job when they can get a constant free stream of “no strings attached” unpaid labour in to do it, and rather than also having to train the previous paid labour to do the unskilled job the government now not only gives you labour for free but pays you to train them to do an unskilled job.

    This is just a paid job reduction sceme and a tax payers subsidy to mega rich Tesco. on top of everything Tax payers still have to pay the slave workers unemployment benefits that they were recieving in the first place.

    I also wonder how much more tax payers money was trouserd by Gordon Brown’s experts, consultants and “cabinet of all the talents” as they clearly “extensivly thought through this idea”.

    Lowestoft's Finest

    June 20, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    • If you support Tesco by these placements it helps everyone, because doing so the employees pays tax so Tesco contributes more to society in return…

      Thats what Labour thinks… actually, they aren’t paying any *additional* tax or NI into society. In fact, the participants are obviously draining money with their benefits plus £15 (-£4) travel costs a week.

      Flexible New Deal

      June 24, 2010 at 6:58 pm

      • Tesco don’t give a stuff about their staff or customers. Businesses exist for one reason only, and that is to increase shareholder value. A business is answerable only to the shareholders.

        Raw Deal

        June 24, 2010 at 7:28 pm

      • Flexi

        I have a massive Tesco superstore near me, and deludid that I am I always make a point of avoiding the self service checkouts by queing up at the manned checkouts. though this often takes longer I at least like to kid myself that by my actions I am at least making a bit of a difference to helping keep workers in their jobs (no matter how sh*te those jobs may be) especialy up here where there are next to no jobs.

        Yesterday I went in to see Tesco had axed eight manned tills and replaced them with eight more self service tills..Just how much proffit do the greedy Tesco managment graspers need to make??? Also hardly bodes well jobwise for the poor sods who get sent their as New Deal/Workfare Slaves.

        Its not like there was any demand for eight more self service tills either as there was hardly ever a que on the existing ones as shoppers avoided them like the plague and its not like Tesco give you a discount for doing the ex-checkout assistants job yourself either.

        Lowestoft's Finest

        June 24, 2010 at 7:30 pm

      • Well… when you pay Tesco – its not just wholesale prices and VAT where applicable… its the markup, excluding cost of sales i.e. staffing, carrier bags …

        Although these self-service machines cost money they are a far big saving to those of the manned checkouts.

        The Tesco near me once went OTT… you had to swipe your own clubcard, pack your own bags and collect your own receipt. How difficult is it for the staff member to do that for you?

        Maybe it was a hygiene system but all cash purchases involved money from customer and where applicable change back to customer.

        Too bad the Government doesnt limit the use of these self-checkout machines: its replacing jobs.

        Flexible New Deal

        June 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm

      • The Banks are also going self service machine crazy as well, most of the cashiers have now been replaced by self service machines and many banks will now hit you with a heavy surcharge you if you try and withdraw your money over the counter instead of via a cash point machine.

        Lowestoft's Finest

        June 25, 2010 at 3:48 pm


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